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They are most definitely being sued: https://www.justsecurity.org/107087/tracker-litigation-legal-challenges-trump-administration/ https://www.justsecurity.org/

by timods 2y ago

They are most definitely being sued: https://www.justsecurity.org/107087/tracker-litigation-legal-challenges-trump-administration/ https://www.justsecurity.org/107087/tracker-litigation-legal...

InkCanon 2y ago
Not an expert on law, but isn't there some mechanism to get policemen to stop DOGE while he's being sued? Like I imagine if I started taking down traffic lights the police would stop me then ask questions.
- derbOac 2y ago
  I think that's the question on everyones minds. A judge has to order it though, which would trigger a direct confrontation between law enforcement divisions. They could also order assets frozen or something though (I think?) which I don't understand why they don't do.
- chewbacha 2y ago
  Yes, court orders. But the officers that enforce them are part of the executive branch, so under Trump. They have been purging all career agents so there’s few left to willingly enforce court orders. Its a coup.
- someothherguyy 2y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_crisis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_crisis
- kube-system 2y ago
  Law enforcement is under the executive branch. The judicial branch doesn’t have any physical ability to project force. The courts rely on the executive’s respect to carry out the rule of law.
- Brybry 2y ago
  Here's an informative Congressional Research Service article on Enforcement of Court Orders Against the Executive Branch.[1] TLDR; courts issue TRO (temporary restraining order), preliminary injunction, or permanent injunctions. Normally people comply. If the government does not comply then individuals can be found in civil contempt and the U.S. Marshals would enforce that. Civil contempt can't be pardoned. There have been some TROs and injunctions issued but also some ignoring of them by the government (and also the supreme court has temporarily stayed at least one). I don't believe any contempt rulings (findings?) have been made, so not yet appropriate for the cops (Marshals). [1] https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB11271 https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB11271
- lesuorac 2y ago
  I dunno, if there were like 30 of you all wearing orange vests and had relevant department of transportation stickers on actual work pickup trucks I think you might be able to get away with it as long as you threw some cones to dead-end one way of the intersection.

by timods 2y ago

They are most definitely being sued: https://www.justsecurity.org/107087/tracker-litigation-legal-challenges-trump-administration/ https://www.justsecurity.org/107087/tracker-litigation-legal...

InkCanon 2y ago

Not an expert on law, but isn't there some mechanism to get policemen to stop DOGE while he's being sued? Like I imagine if I started taking down traffic lights the police would stop me then ask questions.

derbOac 2y ago
I think that's the question on everyones minds. A judge has to order it though, which would trigger a direct confrontation between law enforcement divisions. They could also order assets frozen or something though (I think?) which I don't understand why they don't do.
chewbacha 2y ago
Yes, court orders. But the officers that enforce them are part of the executive branch, so under Trump. They have been purging all career agents so there’s few left to willingly enforce court orders. Its a coup.
someothherguyy 2y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_crisis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_crisis
kube-system 2y ago
Law enforcement is under the executive branch. The judicial branch doesn’t have any physical ability to project force. The courts rely on the executive’s respect to carry out the rule of law.
Brybry 2y ago
Here's an informative Congressional Research Service article on Enforcement of Court Orders Against the Executive Branch.[1] TLDR; courts issue TRO (temporary restraining order), preliminary injunction, or permanent injunctions. Normally people comply. If the government does not comply then individuals can be found in civil contempt and the U.S. Marshals would enforce that. Civil contempt can't be pardoned. There have been some TROs and injunctions issued but also some ignoring of them by the government (and also the supreme court has temporarily stayed at least one). I don't believe any contempt rulings (findings?) have been made, so not yet appropriate for the cops (Marshals). [1] https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB11271 https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB11271
lesuorac 2y ago
I dunno, if there were like 30 of you all wearing orange vests and had relevant department of transportation stickers on actual work pickup trucks I think you might be able to get away with it as long as you threw some cones to dead-end one way of the intersection.