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FWIW a lot of people didn't vote for this even if they voted for Trump and the GOP.

andrewflnr 2y ago
That would be a cowardly excuse if anyone used it. It was clear enough what Trump is.
MVissers 2y ago
I mean, if you re-elect the guy that tried to forcibly stay in power last time, I'm not sure what else to say... Zero sympathy for Americans that voted for this and the ones that stayed home. I feel bad for the ones that voted Kamala and for the West.
- motorest 2y ago
  > I mean, if you re-elect the guy that tried to forcibly stay in power last time, I'm not sure what else to say... You're arguing what you think would happen if Trump was elected. OP is saying something different. He's saying the among the people who voted for Trump, some believed something else would happen and they might feel defrauded.
jghn 2y ago
No, they did. Absolutely nothing about what's happening is a surprise. Anyone claiming otherwise is either lying or so uneducated that they shouldn't be voting.
- nielsbot 2y ago
  There are plenty of examples of people who wanted to vote conservative but "didn't have time to do the research" and now they're about to be caught up in the billionaire looting of the government. Low information voters, people busy with their jobs, lots of ads and propaganda.. and voila. That said, both the Dems and the GOP are there doing the bidding of lobbyists and the wealthy... if we had an actual populist party in the US we wouldn't have ended up here. At least, not so quickly.
  - amanaplanacanal 2y ago
    Voting is a responsibility. If you "don't have time to do the research", please don't vote.
    - nielsbot 2y ago
      i hear you but people are going to vote anyway as surely as they drink and drive. many voters vote on “vibes”. we need an actual populist party that gives people more to vote for. As it is, both parties support the “elites” and that leads to a disillusionment with democracy and a slide towards fascism.
- nielsbot 2y ago
  Just want to add: plenty of Dems voters also don’t get what they voted for.
jfengel 2y ago
Then they should be telling him that. I'm hearing a deafening silence.
- chasing 2y ago
  Have you seen some of these GOP town hall videos?
  - jiggawatts 2y ago
    No… what are you referring to? Could you link an example?
    - raisedbyninjas 2y ago
      Try searching for Town hall outrage. Here's one of the first that I saw. https://youtu.be/iGD4kcBrQjc?si=8m42qO-llaWXQpaC https://youtu.be/iGD4kcBrQjc?si=8m42qO-llaWXQpaC We've seen a lot more corporate supplication to the admin this go around. Some are saying the moderation and media coverage is a little too sparse on criticism like we see in these town halls and protests.
  - jfengel 2y ago
    I'm hearing small numbers of individuals. Nothing from anything larger.
chasing 2y ago
This is true. The GOP prey on gullible low-information voters. He repeatedly denied knowledge of the Project 2025 plan that's now in action.
- throwaway48476 2y ago
  Project 2025 isn't even ideologically consistent because it's written by a grab bag of heritage affiliated authors.
  - nielsbot 2y ago
    there’s an underlying consistency. 1) authoritarianism. 2) christian nationalism 3) dismantle the government (except for military spending.)

That would be a cowardly excuse if anyone used it. It was clear enough what Trump is.

I mean, if you re-elect the guy that tried to forcibly stay in power last time, I'm not sure what else to say... Zero sympathy for Americans that voted for this and the ones that stayed home. I feel bad for the ones that voted Kamala and for the West.

motorest 2y ago
> I mean, if you re-elect the guy that tried to forcibly stay in power last time, I'm not sure what else to say... You're arguing what you think would happen if Trump was elected. OP is saying something different. He's saying the among the people who voted for Trump, some believed something else would happen and they might feel defrauded.

jghn 2y ago

No, they did. Absolutely nothing about what's happening is a surprise. Anyone claiming otherwise is either lying or so uneducated that they shouldn't be voting.

nielsbot 2y ago
There are plenty of examples of people who wanted to vote conservative but "didn't have time to do the research" and now they're about to be caught up in the billionaire looting of the government. Low information voters, people busy with their jobs, lots of ads and propaganda.. and voila. That said, both the Dems and the GOP are there doing the bidding of lobbyists and the wealthy... if we had an actual populist party in the US we wouldn't have ended up here. At least, not so quickly.
- amanaplanacanal 2y ago
  Voting is a responsibility. If you "don't have time to do the research", please don't vote.
  - nielsbot 2y ago
    i hear you but people are going to vote anyway as surely as they drink and drive. many voters vote on “vibes”. we need an actual populist party that gives people more to vote for. As it is, both parties support the “elites” and that leads to a disillusionment with democracy and a slide towards fascism.
nielsbot 2y ago
Just want to add: plenty of Dems voters also don’t get what they voted for.

jfengel 2y ago

Then they should be telling him that. I'm hearing a deafening silence.

chasing 2y ago
Have you seen some of these GOP town hall videos?
- jiggawatts 2y ago
  No… what are you referring to? Could you link an example?
  - raisedbyninjas 2y ago
    Try searching for Town hall outrage. Here's one of the first that I saw. https://youtu.be/iGD4kcBrQjc?si=8m42qO-llaWXQpaC https://youtu.be/iGD4kcBrQjc?si=8m42qO-llaWXQpaC We've seen a lot more corporate supplication to the admin this go around. Some are saying the moderation and media coverage is a little too sparse on criticism like we see in these town halls and protests.
- jfengel 2y ago
  I'm hearing small numbers of individuals. Nothing from anything larger.

chasing 2y ago

This is true. The GOP prey on gullible low-information voters. He repeatedly denied knowledge of the Project 2025 plan that's now in action.

throwaway48476 2y ago
Project 2025 isn't even ideologically consistent because it's written by a grab bag of heritage affiliated authors.
- nielsbot 2y ago
  there’s an underlying consistency. 1) authoritarianism. 2) christian nationalism 3) dismantle the government (except for military spending.)