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"Of course, NOAA itself has provided some of the key data that confirm that the climate is warming; it houses one of the most significant repositories of climat
by andyjohnson0 2y ago
"Of course, NOAA itself has provided some of the key data that confirm that the climate is warming; it houses one of the most significant repositories of climate data on Earth, detailing shifting atmospheric conditions, the health of coastal fisheries, ice-core and tree-ring data, and countless other data sets. Project 2025 targeted the agency for exactly this reason: NOAA’s research is “the source of much of NOAA’s climate alarmism," the policy book states."
Unfortunately this is all it is. The death cult wants to turn a profit while they burn our planet.
- throw0101c 2y agoSee recent "Trump bars federal scientists from working on pivotal global [IPCC] climate report": * https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/climate/trump-blocks-scientists-ipcc/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/climate/trump-blocks-scientis...
- kevin_thibedeau 2y agoWell it's also Accuweather getting their revenge for a well functioning not-for-profit weather service despite their prior attempts to kneecap it.
- rafram 2y agoI don’t know about AccuWeather specifically, but don’t most weather sites ultimately get their forecasts from the National Weather Service?
- jordanb 2y agoAccuweather tried to sue NOAA to prevent them giving forecasts to the public via the internet. Accuweather wanted to stay as a middle-man. Accuweather and basically every forecaster is using input data from NOAA or other government agencies. The biggest private companies could, theoretically, run proprietary models for their customers if NOAA were to quit doing forecasts altogether. For instance, the GFS is open source so someone with a big enough supercomputer could use it.
- drivingmenuts 2y agoHow much data are they pulling from privately-owned weather monitoring systems in people's backyards?
- cbfrench 2y agoNone of the models ingests that data, mostly because there is no way to ensure that personal weather stations are sited correctly. So, for instance, an anemometer has to be around 30’ above ground with no obstructions to generate usable readings. Most people putting a personal weather station in the backyard aren’t going to the trouble to locate the station where it can provide data that are usable. Plus, surface readings are only a small part of the atmospheric picture; you need weather balloons to generate a more holistic reflection of the atmosphere at a site. There are also data generated from aircraft, but those are more one-dimensional (in the sense that they are only sampling conditions at a single altitude) than twice-daily balloon launches from selected sites. Until someone decides to implement a private, nation-wide radiosonde network, there probably won’t be a numerical prediction model that operates independently of NOAA data.
- kevin_thibedeau 2y agoNOAA's weather satellites also provide atmospheric moisture measurements that are integral in predictive modeling.
- bediger4000 2y agoWe're throwing away a whole lot just to satisfy a religious minority. What's next, getting oligarch owned and running media to start attacking evidence that supports evolution?
- ForTheKidz 2y ago[flagged]
- gjsman-1000 2y agoHello, you may be new here, but the above comment is a violation of the guidelines. “Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes. Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.” https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- neilv 2y agoThe term of art I've heard in English (a little different than the exact term they used) is appropriate to their point. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot But maybe impolitic to mention this theory, at least with this term. Many have already heard this theory, and many who have not could be offended by the term itself.
- ForTheKidz 2y agoi mean that's fine, but that applies to about 20% of the posts on this forum. Way more than that if you acknowledge the various ideologies baked into american VC culture. Regardless, I would think that asserting that a minority is responsible for political events violates the same guidelines even more flagrantly. Coherent application of rules is important.