> Does grandma manipulate you when she adds sugar to her cherry pie? Manipulation implies a purpose, so I’d say no. Does grandma have an ulterior motive? She a

> Does grandma manipulate you when she adds sugar to her cherry pie? Manipulation implies a purpose, so I’d say no. Does grandma have an ulterior motive? She adds sugar to express herself through the art of baking or does she need a favor? > I mean, is a fig tree "manipulating" you when its figs ripen with sugar so they'll be eaten? ..Yes?