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Their effective resistance is why the damage done by the first Trump administration was limited. Democracy is not an end in itself. We’re better off with more

Their effective resistance is why the damage done by the first Trump administration was limited. Democracy is not an end in itself. We’re better off with more power in the hands of the bureaucracy and less in the hands of populist politicians.

rayiner 2y ago
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- sympil 2y ago
  You think Citizen’s United was a good ruling. You think the Voting Rights Act hasn’t been gutted despite thousands of polling stations shutting down. You think there was some bureaucratic state plotting against the executive despite no evidence. Your link is an article about people taking Project 2025 and Trump at their word and trying to plan accordingly. You have no objecticity. Your logic is horribly flawed. You are the problem.
  - rayiner 2y ago
    > You think there was some bureaucratic state plotting against the executive despite no evidence. What more evidence do you need than a WaPo article talking about federal workers that declared they would resist Trump’s policies? > Your link is an article about people taking Project 2025 and Trump at their word and trying to plan accordingly. The article is from February 2017. And “trying to plan” what? > You have no objecticity. Your logic is horribly flawed. You are the problem Let me ask you a question. You agree that, since Trump won the election, federal employees should work just as hard implementing Project 2025 as they did for Biden, including coming up with creative legal theories like Biden did for student loan forgiveness. Right?
    - sympil 2y ago
      What more evidence do you need than a WaPo article talking about federal workers that declared they would resist Trump’s policies? A single article is evidence enough for you. And some people think you are a brilliant lawyer.
- fzeroracer 2y ago
  You never did answer my question when you defined what 'woke' means [1]. I'm still waiting for your response given that you seem to be keen of accusing others of going mask off. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43201888 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43201888
A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2y ago
Fascinating and a very revealing comment. Allow me to translate. Democracy is only democracy when we hold the power. Otherwise, it is populism. Like I said. Very revealing.
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  very dishonest reading, but I'm not surprised at this point. Congress is "beauracracy". a single elected official is just that. Ideally, the most efficient means is a benevolent dictator, but human nature rarely draws such people. Hence, beauracracy.
  - A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2y ago
    << We’re better off with more power in the hands of the bureaucracy and less in the hands of populist politicians. How is it dishonest? Parent says "beauracracy" is better, but this is not what the system is set up for and not how it is designed. The reason for current preference for "beauracracy" as 'better' is partisan at best, hence my reading is not only not dishonest, but disturbingly accurate. And this is all before we get to the part of how we got here and the more interesting part of previous federal workforce purges ( and the resulting rise of "beauracracy" ). Give me some credit man.
    - School-Cotton 2y ago
      It is not partisan at all. If left-wing populists took over the Democratic Party and tried to radically upend the system, I'd also hope the professional civil service resisted them.

rayiner 2y ago

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sympil 2y ago
You think Citizen’s United was a good ruling. You think the Voting Rights Act hasn’t been gutted despite thousands of polling stations shutting down. You think there was some bureaucratic state plotting against the executive despite no evidence. Your link is an article about people taking Project 2025 and Trump at their word and trying to plan accordingly. You have no objecticity. Your logic is horribly flawed. You are the problem.
- rayiner 2y ago
  > You think there was some bureaucratic state plotting against the executive despite no evidence. What more evidence do you need than a WaPo article talking about federal workers that declared they would resist Trump’s policies? > Your link is an article about people taking Project 2025 and Trump at their word and trying to plan accordingly. The article is from February 2017. And “trying to plan” what? > You have no objecticity. Your logic is horribly flawed. You are the problem Let me ask you a question. You agree that, since Trump won the election, federal employees should work just as hard implementing Project 2025 as they did for Biden, including coming up with creative legal theories like Biden did for student loan forgiveness. Right?
  - sympil 2y ago
    What more evidence do you need than a WaPo article talking about federal workers that declared they would resist Trump’s policies? A single article is evidence enough for you. And some people think you are a brilliant lawyer.
fzeroracer 2y ago
You never did answer my question when you defined what 'woke' means [1]. I'm still waiting for your response given that you seem to be keen of accusing others of going mask off. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43201888 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43201888

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2y ago

Fascinating and a very revealing comment. Allow me to translate. Democracy is only democracy when we hold the power. Otherwise, it is populism. Like I said. Very revealing.

johnnyanmac 2y ago
very dishonest reading, but I'm not surprised at this point. Congress is "beauracracy". a single elected official is just that. Ideally, the most efficient means is a benevolent dictator, but human nature rarely draws such people. Hence, beauracracy.
- A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2y ago
  << We’re better off with more power in the hands of the bureaucracy and less in the hands of populist politicians. How is it dishonest? Parent says "beauracracy" is better, but this is not what the system is set up for and not how it is designed. The reason for current preference for "beauracracy" as 'better' is partisan at best, hence my reading is not only not dishonest, but disturbingly accurate. And this is all before we get to the part of how we got here and the more interesting part of previous federal workforce purges ( and the resulting rise of "beauracracy" ). Give me some credit man.
  - School-Cotton 2y ago
    It is not partisan at all. If left-wing populists took over the Democratic Party and tried to radically upend the system, I'd also hope the professional civil service resisted them.