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They open sourced quite a few guides, resources and standards over the years. I think they did a lot of design and i18n work like the US web design guidelines.
by lxe 2y ago
They open sourced quite a few guides, resources and standards over the years. I think they did a lot of design and i18n work like the US web design guidelines. Also... don't they own login.gov?
https://github.com/orgs/18F/repositories https://github.com/orgs/18F/repositories
- sneak 2y ago[flagged]
- lillecarl 2y agoIsn't that just an optimization?
- sarchertech 2y agoThe federal government had enough employees for federated SSO within 20 years of the country’s founding.
- sneak 2y agologin.gov is fedgov SSO for citizens, not employees.
- sarchertech 2y agoSo let’s say we go back to the original departments of war, treasury, and state. And the offices of the attorney general and the postmaster general. That’s 5 logins right there. Then we have the first patent board established in 1790. Then all of the federal courts could use the SSO if they wanted. What about when you want to login to request a tour of the capitol, access the library of congress, or book an appointment with your representative. We have over 300 million people so there will probably be separate offices within some of the departments to handle some of the more common requests. There’s probably going to be a passport office and separate office to handle immigration and visas. Treasury will probably have separate offices to handle accounts payable and tax collection. Add in miscellaneous things like logins to handle freedom of information requests. Logins to register homestead claims and mining claims in US territories. My point is that even in the most minimal government only possible in a libertarian’s wet dream, there’s gonna be enough delegate logins that SSO is a good idea.
- asielen 2y agoCongress itself without any aides is big enough to merit SSO. Sounds like you don't want a democracy or don't understand how government works. Or you want a total anarchist society.
- redundantly 2y agoPretending that the federal government of a nation of 340 million people should be that small is beyond naive.
- sneak 2y agoWhy? What about 300+ million changes the list of things the government should be doing for the citizenry versus a country of 3 million?
- sarchertech 2y agoIt doesn’t necessarily change the scope, but it definitely changes the scale. Just one example. In a country of 3 million people you can probably get away with having one office that handles visa applications and passport applications. In a country 100x larger, you’d need to hire so many employees for both that each sub department will grow so large that they are effectively independent from each other and have separate physical infrastructure, separate digital infrastructure etc… Then once you have all these separate sub departments you have sub departments that pop up just to service other sub departments. It’s just an extension of graph theory. The number of connections between nodes grows non linearly with the number of nodes. Take any organization. The percentage of support staff vs direct revenue generators increases with the size of the company. The number of support staff vs front line fighters grows non linearly with the size of the army.
- shelbel 2y agoThe parent organization to 18F, the Technology Transformation Service (TTS), owns Login.gov. Expecting to see more RIFs within TTS.