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There are some signs that these drugs have effects beyond just apetite supression leading to weight loss. I recall reading something about them having a direct

by cedws 2y ago

There are some signs that these drugs have effects beyond just apetite supression leading to weight loss. I recall reading something about them having a direct slowing effect on the metabolism, which increases longevity, among other benefits. I can foresee it being used like a supplement among those who can afford it.

wakawaka28 2y ago
It will probably fuck up your body in ways that we can hardly imagine. Ozempic has been linked to lots of horrible side effects.
- glp1guide 2y ago
  No it hasn’t— its well researched and the short to mid term (ish) side effects are well known: https://glp1.guide/tag/category-side-effects/ https://glp1.guide/tag/category-side-effects/
  - wakawaka28 2y ago
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    - the_sleaze_ 2y ago
      > blindness, osteoporosis, depression, digestive and metabolic issues I believe each of those are listed in the link he provided. It's up to the individual to make their own decisions as to their own health. At least the information exists with which to make informed decisions.
      - wakawaka28 2y ago
        You're technically right but when people like this keep insisting it's safe in spite of clear evidence to the contrary, and they point to catch-all disclaimers that bury the lead, you might understand how someone would overestimate the safety of the drug.
    - glp1guide 2y ago
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      - wakawaka28 2y ago
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- wakawaka28 2y ago
  (Copied from a post that was flagged) Also, Ozempic suspected of causing: Osteoporosis: https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a62282449/ozempic-bon https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a62282449/ozempic-bon... Blindness: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/review-3-potential https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/review-3-potential... Stomach paralysis: https://www.webmd.com/obesity/ozempic-and-stomach-paralysis https://www.webmd.com/obesity/ozempic-and-stomach-paralysis https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/ozempic-wegovy-li https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/ozempic-wegovy-li... Genital infections: https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-w https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-w... Pancreatitis: https://healthylifebariatrics.com/ozempic-pancreatitis-sympt https://healthylifebariatrics.com/ozempic-pancreatitis-sympt... Intestinal paralysis (generally): https://www.healthline.com/health-news/fda-updates-ozempic-l https://www.healthline.com/health-news/fda-updates-ozempic-l... Same, leading to colon removal: https://people.com/woman-sues-ozempic-manufacturer-colon-rem https://people.com/woman-sues-ozempic-manufacturer-colon-rem... Depression: https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-some-people-are-c https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-some-people-are-c... Furthermore, people who say GLP-1 drugs are commonly prescribed omit the fact that diabetics are the main consumers, and their bodies probably work very different from those of normal people.
- TechDebtDevin 2y ago
  Its saved or extended 1000 lives for every one person whos gotten some GI stress from it.
  - Earw0rm 2y ago
    That says T2D is bad (indeed, arguably a lot worse than popular understanding), not GLP-1's are candy. Have to wonder if people really understood the consequences, would they still allow themselves to get in that state? Then again, used to be that smoking was something 1-in-3 did, so... Anyway, seems pretty settled that fixing T2D with GLP-1's is a lot less harmful than not, but using them on healthy people is a different story.
  - wakawaka28 2y ago
    I doubt it's that high of a ratio. Even if it was, you need to break it down into weight loss versus diabetic cases. I'm sure the dosage is different along with the mechanism of action, even though the substance is the same. Imagine saying that starches have extended more lives than they have cost, without breaking down the analysis any further. Clearly the health impact depends on the quantities and patterns of consumption. This is the kind of muddling that is now happening with GLP-1 drugs.

by cedws 2y ago

wakawaka28 2y ago

It will probably fuck up your body in ways that we can hardly imagine. Ozempic has been linked to lots of horrible side effects.

glp1guide 2y ago
No it hasn’t— its well researched and the short to mid term (ish) side effects are well known: https://glp1.guide/tag/category-side-effects/ https://glp1.guide/tag/category-side-effects/
- wakawaka28 2y ago
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  - the_sleaze_ 2y ago
    > blindness, osteoporosis, depression, digestive and metabolic issues I believe each of those are listed in the link he provided. It's up to the individual to make their own decisions as to their own health. At least the information exists with which to make informed decisions.
    - wakawaka28 2y ago
      You're technically right but when people like this keep insisting it's safe in spite of clear evidence to the contrary, and they point to catch-all disclaimers that bury the lead, you might understand how someone would overestimate the safety of the drug.
  - glp1guide 2y ago
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    - wakawaka28 2y ago
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wakawaka28 2y ago
(Copied from a post that was flagged) Also, Ozempic suspected of causing: Osteoporosis: https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a62282449/ozempic-bon https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a62282449/ozempic-bon... Blindness: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/review-3-potential https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/review-3-potential... Stomach paralysis: https://www.webmd.com/obesity/ozempic-and-stomach-paralysis https://www.webmd.com/obesity/ozempic-and-stomach-paralysis https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/ozempic-wegovy-li https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/ozempic-wegovy-li... Genital infections: https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-w https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-w... Pancreatitis: https://healthylifebariatrics.com/ozempic-pancreatitis-sympt https://healthylifebariatrics.com/ozempic-pancreatitis-sympt... Intestinal paralysis (generally): https://www.healthline.com/health-news/fda-updates-ozempic-l https://www.healthline.com/health-news/fda-updates-ozempic-l... Same, leading to colon removal: https://people.com/woman-sues-ozempic-manufacturer-colon-rem https://people.com/woman-sues-ozempic-manufacturer-colon-rem... Depression: https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-some-people-are-c https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-some-people-are-c... Furthermore, people who say GLP-1 drugs are commonly prescribed omit the fact that diabetics are the main consumers, and their bodies probably work very different from those of normal people.
TechDebtDevin 2y ago
Its saved or extended 1000 lives for every one person whos gotten some GI stress from it.
- Earw0rm 2y ago
  That says T2D is bad (indeed, arguably a lot worse than popular understanding), not GLP-1's are candy. Have to wonder if people really understood the consequences, would they still allow themselves to get in that state? Then again, used to be that smoking was something 1-in-3 did, so... Anyway, seems pretty settled that fixing T2D with GLP-1's is a lot less harmful than not, but using them on healthy people is a different story.
- wakawaka28 2y ago
  I doubt it's that high of a ratio. Even if it was, you need to break it down into weight loss versus diabetic cases. I'm sure the dosage is different along with the mechanism of action, even though the substance is the same. Imagine saying that starches have extended more lives than they have cost, without breaking down the analysis any further. Clearly the health impact depends on the quantities and patterns of consumption. This is the kind of muddling that is now happening with GLP-1 drugs.