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Given they have to be vetted the same way as any other government employee with that access, including security clearances, I’m not sure these will succeed. At

Given they have to be vetted the same way as any other government employee with that access, including security clearances, I’m not sure these will succeed. At least to my mind it’s not clear how a government employee can have access but for doge it’s breaking the law. The devil is in the specific details.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> they have to be vetted the same way as any other government employee with that access, including security clearances We know this wasn’t done when they were rummaging around the Treasury. Courts are granting restraining orders because the DOGE bros acted so incompetently. (It’s generally incredibly hard to restrain government employees.) > it’s not clear how a government employee can have access but for doge it’s breaking the law Same way a park ranger can’t walk onto a military base and start rummaging through documents. Or start tweeting them. (Or hell, the President himself tweet your tax return.)
- slashdev 2y ago
  > We know this wasn’t done when they were rummaging around the Treasury. Sorry, do you have a source for that? Having trouble verifying it. I agree there are standard vetting and security clearances, and they should be followed.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    Item 91 in the EPIC complaint [1], which was found to be sufficiently merited to permit a TRO. (It’s a legal filing. Allegations will always be couched.) [1] https://epic.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/EPIC-v-OPM-25-cv-255-complaint-021025.pdf https://epic.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/EPIC-v-OPM-25-cv...
jonahbenton 2y ago
They were not vetted/bgchecked, full stop, and are not complying with any security controls. Doing my yearly fedgov security trainings while those fucks are yoloing with all classifications of sensitive data is, shall we say, bitterness inducing.
- slashdev 2y ago
  That’s not what I heard. Do you have evidence for that?

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> they have to be vetted the same way as any other government employee with that access, including security clearances We know this wasn’t done when they were rummaging around the Treasury. Courts are granting restraining orders because the DOGE bros acted so incompetently. (It’s generally incredibly hard to restrain government employees.) > it’s not clear how a government employee can have access but for doge it’s breaking the law Same way a park ranger can’t walk onto a military base and start rummaging through documents. Or start tweeting them. (Or hell, the President himself tweet your tax return.)

slashdev 2y ago
> We know this wasn’t done when they were rummaging around the Treasury. Sorry, do you have a source for that? Having trouble verifying it. I agree there are standard vetting and security clearances, and they should be followed.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  Item 91 in the EPIC complaint [1], which was found to be sufficiently merited to permit a TRO. (It’s a legal filing. Allegations will always be couched.) [1] https://epic.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/EPIC-v-OPM-25-cv-255-complaint-021025.pdf https://epic.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/EPIC-v-OPM-25-cv...

jonahbenton 2y ago

They were not vetted/bgchecked, full stop, and are not complying with any security controls. Doing my yearly fedgov security trainings while those fucks are yoloing with all classifications of sensitive data is, shall we say, bitterness inducing.

slashdev 2y ago
That’s not what I heard. Do you have evidence for that?