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> if you have a hobby or job, imagine the new guy coming in, knowing absolutely nothing and doing shit they technically can do, but shouldn’t be done Isn't th

> if you have a hobby or job, imagine the new guy coming in, knowing absolutely nothing and doing shit they technically can do, but shouldn’t be done Isn't that the definition of gatekeeping? and even so, who cares? the new guy coming in creating/doing something in a way that "shouldn't be done" will eventually fail and notice the shortcomings of what they did. Then they will either drop their project or learn the way "it should be done" (like we all did, except now with AI).

GuinansEyebrows 2y ago
I kinda feel like this attitude, like “free market capitalism”, allows more bad things to happen with the potential for some unseen/immeasurable force to “correct” the environment once the Bad Thing is recognized and rationally dealt with. But there are probably better ways to avoid Bad Things that require only a little additional forethought, planning, and deciding ahead of time what sorts of things we’d like to avoid (oh no, regulation!).
- itishappy 2y ago
  Do we care? Is the podcast script timer from the article a Bad Thing? Are people actually hiring vibe coders for critical infrastructure? I write really bad Haskell code sometimes without any AI assistance. Am I doing a Bad Thing when I create my own tools? What are you intending to regulate here?
  - GuinansEyebrows 2y ago
    > Are people actually hiring vibe coders for critical infrastructure? It appears to be happening right now in the US federal government.
    - itishappy 2y ago
      To be clear, you're saying that people with no ability to reason about code are currently in a position to push unreviewed code into critical government infrastructure? Do you have an example?
withinboredom 2y ago
No. I never said you shouldn’t use it. I never even said it was a bad idea. But I did say to be careful. Find out if your cashier is giving the right change when you hire them, before you have the cops showing up to accuse your business of theft.

GuinansEyebrows 2y ago

I kinda feel like this attitude, like “free market capitalism”, allows more bad things to happen with the potential for some unseen/immeasurable force to “correct” the environment once the Bad Thing is recognized and rationally dealt with. But there are probably better ways to avoid Bad Things that require only a little additional forethought, planning, and deciding ahead of time what sorts of things we’d like to avoid (oh no, regulation!).

itishappy 2y ago
Do we care? Is the podcast script timer from the article a Bad Thing? Are people actually hiring vibe coders for critical infrastructure? I write really bad Haskell code sometimes without any AI assistance. Am I doing a Bad Thing when I create my own tools? What are you intending to regulate here?
- GuinansEyebrows 2y ago
  > Are people actually hiring vibe coders for critical infrastructure? It appears to be happening right now in the US federal government.
  - itishappy 2y ago
    To be clear, you're saying that people with no ability to reason about code are currently in a position to push unreviewed code into critical government infrastructure? Do you have an example?

withinboredom 2y ago

No. I never said you shouldn’t use it. I never even said it was a bad idea. But I did say to be careful. Find out if your cashier is giving the right change when you hire them, before you have the cops showing up to accuse your business of theft.