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Exactly. Why is my browser serving me advertising in the first place? Because Mozilla is an advertising company now.

by ttpphd 2y ago

KingOfCoders 2y ago
Yes, ad first company, with a browser product to capture ad audience.
brookst 2y ago
There are only two ways to generate revenue: direct and indirect. Nobody will pay for a browser. I don’t use Firefox and this whole thing is distasteful, but I’m not sure how they’re supposed to cover operating expenses without indirect monetization, or what for of indirect other than ads would work.
- yencabulator 2y ago
  In the meanwhile, people are asking how to donate to Firefox not to Mozilla and it's CEOs whims and personal salary.
- inetknght 2y ago
  > Nobody will pay for a browser. Speak for yourself. Give me a browser that clearly and unambiguously does not sell my usage of it in any way, and I will give you a monthly subscription.
  - brookst 2y ago
    Well yeah and I do pay for Kagi but would still say “nobody will pay for a search engine” using “nobody” in the “not enough people to scale a mass market business” sense.
  - ukuina 2y ago
    Horse Browser? https://gethorse.com https://gethorse.com
    - papascrubs 2y ago
      Built on top of chrome (electron actually). Same issues as every other chrome form. Also, doesn't support extensions.
- mschuster91 2y ago
  > There are only two ways to generate revenue: direct and indirect. Nobody will pay for a browser. There's a third way: screw revenue, dump all staff not related to browser development and documentation (MDN) and look for government grants to fund that. Especially the EU may be a target for a well-written proposal, given the political atmosphere it would make sense to have at least one browser engine that is not fundamentally tied to the US and its plethora of bullshit like NSLs.
- zecg 2y ago
  > Nobody will pay for a browser. I would, if they offered a payment-only access to Firefox with no added services and no telemetry whatsoever. I'd pay 50€ a year for that.

Exactly. Why is my browser serving me advertising in the first place? Because Mozilla is an advertising company now.

by ttpphd 2y ago

Exactly. Why is my browser serving me advertising in the first place? Because Mozilla is an advertising company now.

KingOfCoders 2y ago

Yes, ad first company, with a browser product to capture ad audience.

brookst 2y ago

There are only two ways to generate revenue: direct and indirect. Nobody will pay for a browser. I don’t use Firefox and this whole thing is distasteful, but I’m not sure how they’re supposed to cover operating expenses without indirect monetization, or what for of indirect other than ads would work.

yencabulator 2y ago
In the meanwhile, people are asking how to donate to Firefox not to Mozilla and it's CEOs whims and personal salary.
inetknght 2y ago
> Nobody will pay for a browser. Speak for yourself. Give me a browser that clearly and unambiguously does not sell my usage of it in any way, and I will give you a monthly subscription.
- brookst 2y ago
  Well yeah and I do pay for Kagi but would still say “nobody will pay for a search engine” using “nobody” in the “not enough people to scale a mass market business” sense.
- ukuina 2y ago
  Horse Browser? https://gethorse.com https://gethorse.com
  - papascrubs 2y ago
    Built on top of chrome (electron actually). Same issues as every other chrome form. Also, doesn't support extensions.
mschuster91 2y ago
> There are only two ways to generate revenue: direct and indirect. Nobody will pay for a browser. There's a third way: screw revenue, dump all staff not related to browser development and documentation (MDN) and look for government grants to fund that. Especially the EU may be a target for a well-written proposal, given the political atmosphere it would make sense to have at least one browser engine that is not fundamentally tied to the US and its plethora of bullshit like NSLs.
zecg 2y ago
> Nobody will pay for a browser. I would, if they offered a payment-only access to Firefox with no added services and no telemetry whatsoever. I'd pay 50€ a year for that.