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I didn't see any mention of precautions relating to vinyl spall/dust produced by these lathes. As far as I know vinyl is toxic, and I'd expect to see some kind

I didn't see any mention of precautions relating to vinyl spall/dust produced by these lathes. As far as I know vinyl is toxic, and I'd expect to see some kind of extraction tube or enclosure if this is being done in a domestic setting.

Mizza 2y ago
One of the many secrets of lathe cutting is that these aren't actually PVC, but rather PETG. They actually play nicer and are more durable than pressed PVC records and can have a lower noise floor. On a good day, we can make a cut record that sounds nicer than a pressed one.
- bjackman 2y ago
  Back before CDJs people in the UK used to cut records like this for playing unreleased music in clubs. We referred to the material used for this as "acetate" but I don't know what it was technically. You didn't do it at home though, so maybe the businesses that did it had to have air filters. We called these records "dubplates" since this practice came from West Indian soundystem culture. I'm sure there are still DJs that do this today.
  - Mizza 2y ago
    Acetates are still used in the manufacturing process - even pressed records need to be cut once - but they aren't great as products to send to home-users because they degrade from usage very quickly. We are also running a soundsystem and mainly cutting for other DJs. Records are cool!
  - unitexe 2y ago
    You right. This practice lives on in dubstep and soundsystem music in general.
  - usrusr 2y ago
    That was my first thought reading this: if these devices spread too far, all the magic will be gone. Dubplates are special not because they are one of a kind, they are special because they are one of a kind while also being so much more exclusive than mixtapes (which can be just as one of a kind, but aren't exclusive at all). Widely available home-cut vinyl might perhaps breed an awesome new culture, but if that happens it will definitely kill the incumbent.
  - card_zero 2y ago
    Nitrocellulose lacquer on a substrate, says Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetate_disc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetate_disc
- crowselect 2y ago
  I guess you'd really have to get your bed leveling dialed in perfectly to 3d print a record edit: ok I googled it: 3d printed playable record: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM7hwAuXqCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM7hwAuXqCE 1. yes it's possible - using some kind of resin printing method, not FDM. 2. no it doesn't sound very good.
01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago
> As far as I know vinyl is toxic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ2czFuIYmQ&pp=ygURYmVubiBqb3JkYW4gdmlueWw%3D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ2czFuIYmQ&pp=ygURYmVubiBqb... "Vinyl: Maybe it's time we had an intervention" by Benn Jordan. tl;dw: He puts a VOC meter to a vinyl record and yep they're definitely toxic. Remember, if you smell something, it's going inside your body. That includes "new plastic smell", farts, etc. > This is just my objective opinion based on a whole lotta research... if you're an avid vinyl collector whose pee-pee hurts after watching this video, understand that my pee-pee hurts a whole lot more.

Mizza 2y ago

One of the many secrets of lathe cutting is that these aren't actually PVC, but rather PETG. They actually play nicer and are more durable than pressed PVC records and can have a lower noise floor. On a good day, we can make a cut record that sounds nicer than a pressed one.

bjackman 2y ago
Back before CDJs people in the UK used to cut records like this for playing unreleased music in clubs. We referred to the material used for this as "acetate" but I don't know what it was technically. You didn't do it at home though, so maybe the businesses that did it had to have air filters. We called these records "dubplates" since this practice came from West Indian soundystem culture. I'm sure there are still DJs that do this today.
- Mizza 2y ago
  Acetates are still used in the manufacturing process - even pressed records need to be cut once - but they aren't great as products to send to home-users because they degrade from usage very quickly. We are also running a soundsystem and mainly cutting for other DJs. Records are cool!
- unitexe 2y ago
  You right. This practice lives on in dubstep and soundsystem music in general.
- usrusr 2y ago
  That was my first thought reading this: if these devices spread too far, all the magic will be gone. Dubplates are special not because they are one of a kind, they are special because they are one of a kind while also being so much more exclusive than mixtapes (which can be just as one of a kind, but aren't exclusive at all). Widely available home-cut vinyl might perhaps breed an awesome new culture, but if that happens it will definitely kill the incumbent.
- card_zero 2y ago
  Nitrocellulose lacquer on a substrate, says Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetate_disc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetate_disc
crowselect 2y ago
I guess you'd really have to get your bed leveling dialed in perfectly to 3d print a record edit: ok I googled it: 3d printed playable record: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM7hwAuXqCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM7hwAuXqCE 1. yes it's possible - using some kind of resin printing method, not FDM. 2. no it doesn't sound very good.

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago

> As far as I know vinyl is toxic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ2czFuIYmQ&pp=ygURYmVubiBqb3JkYW4gdmlueWw%3D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ2czFuIYmQ&pp=ygURYmVubiBqb... "Vinyl: Maybe it's time we had an intervention" by Benn Jordan. tl;dw: He puts a VOC meter to a vinyl record and yep they're definitely toxic. Remember, if you smell something, it's going inside your body. That includes "new plastic smell", farts, etc. > This is just my objective opinion based on a whole lotta research... if you're an avid vinyl collector whose pee-pee hurts after watching this video, understand that my pee-pee hurts a whole lot more.