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18F Has Been Eliminated
According to a current employee’s post https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ronbronson_18f-has-indeed-been-eliminated-tonight-activity-7301520770147434496-INNE
- ronbenton 2y agoThis is bad. Last I heard, 18F was maintaining the US Web Design System and Login.gov
- sylware 2y ago[flagged]
- acdha 2y agoNo, and also it’s not really a laughing matter when a bunch of people who tried to make government more efficient lose their jobs.
- sylware 2y agojavascript people have been hurting me bad. Sorry but not sorry.
- acdha 2y agoThat sounds like you should find a more constructive way to deal with whatever’s going on in your life than cheering on others being traumatized. The Republicans can purge everyone who tried to serve the country and it won’t make anything one iota better for you.
- sylware 2y agoMaybe I am failing as a human, not that our kind seems more and more of a rare thing on HN: Namely I cannot suppress a bit of emotional joy seeing people who have been dragging me down being dragged down, that whatever their political color since it is irrelevant here. All humans left here, know perfectly the implications of using javascript-ed web engines from the whatng cartel. If you don't want to understand that, this is on you mate.
- ronbenton 2y agoI guess this is a bad faith comment. Nothing about what 18F delivered is JavaScript focused.
- sylware 2y agohttps://dashboard.fr.cloud.gov/ https://dashboard.fr.cloud.gov/
- Someone 2y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18F https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18F: “18F is a digital services agency within the Technology Transformation Services department of the General Services Administration (GSA) of the United States Government. 18F helps other government agencies build, buy, and share technology products. The team consists of designers, software engineers, strategists, and product managers who collaborate with other agencies to fix technical problems, build products, and improve public service through technology.” Clickable URL from this post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ronbronson_18f-has-indeed-been-eliminated-tonight-activity-7301520770147434496-INNE https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ronbronson_18f-has-indeed-bee...
- ronbenton 2y agoOne lede that gets buried when talking about 18F : they operate in a “cost recovery” model. Their funding comes from agencies that pay them for help. There is no money saved eliminating 18F.
- ttyprintk 2y agoWe’ll have a list like that when the obscuring smoke clears. The FDA division clearing medical devices, for instance, used no taxpayer money. The median case will be that spending stays even because of legal bills. I predict net Congressional spending will increase because DOGE itself will require a massive bailout.
- acdha 2y agoAlso everything left will become more expensive: anyone bidding on a government contract needs to allocate more overhead money to account for refusal to pay as well as additional legal and accounting expenses, and trying to hire anyone for federal jobs costs more for less-qualified applicants when they can expect to be treated like this. When they talk about the government being too inefficient, it’s a promise rather than analysis.
- Finnucane 2y ago18F was doing valuable work trying to actually make the government work a little better for people. The current administration doesn’t want that.
- ronbenton 2y agoIt’s crazy. USDS and now 18F. These were the organizations doing the real efficiency work. Both axed. Why???
- acdha 2y agoIf your goal is efficiency, it makes no sense. If your goal was something like contracting government functions to businesses owned by you or your friends, and your pretext for doing it was that government was incompetent and couldn’t work, this would make sense as a move to remove both competition and people who can disprove your “smartest guy in the room” shtick. They’re pushing so much claiming that the DOGE people are geniuses who can fix everything, but then detail after detail confirms that they’re not actually that good but they are very interested in politicizing what are ostensibly non-partisan activities.
- Finnucane 2y agoFor the same reason you fire the inspectors general and the JAGs, shut down corruption investigations at the DoJ. They're systematically eliminating the people whose job is to make sure laws and rules are followed. Useful services are cut, while money is redirected to favored contractors.
- k310 2y agoAnil Dash - Understanding DOGE as Procurement Capture https://www.anildash.com//2025/01/04/DOGE-procurement-capture/ https://www.anildash.com//2025/01/04/DOGE-procurement-captur...
- ronbenton 2y agoThis makes a lot of sense. I remember Elon saying “don’t worry, spacex will fix the air traffic control system.” Which is, in a word, crazy. But probably lucrative if he somehow gets a contract for it.
- throwaway8392 2y agoAdditional context and news coverage: https://www.nextgov.com/people/2025/03/gsa-eliminates-18f/403400/ https://www.nextgov.com/people/2025/03/gsa-eliminates-18f/40...
- jonahbenton 2y agoNot from our memories.
- DeepSeaTortoise 2y agoSir, please hold still while we insert you Neuralink.
- cantrecallmypwd 2y agoYour name is "Not Sure".
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- neontomo 2y agoconflicted - people who have admired Elon in the past, how are you feeling about him now?
- blitzar 2y agoDrug addiction can affect your behaviour and degrade your brain.
- neontomo 2y agoand what do you think of him?
- cantrecallmypwd 2y agoTo be fair, also so can being obscenely rich and not having anyone around telling you "no". Put them together with utopianist weirdos and the results are predictable.
- andrei_says_ 2y agoIs there still a way to access the design system they created and shared?
- euroderf 2y ago18F's internal artifacts & documentation will be passed to private contractors who come in after a while to do the same work at triple the price, including Elon's cut.