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But NATO first agreed not to expand to countries along Russia's border, because they see that as a threat. But then NATO did anyway. So it's not like we're bein

But NATO first agreed not to expand to countries along Russia's border, because they see that as a threat. But then NATO did anyway. So it's not like we're being told by Russia what to do, we made an agreement. And Russia is also a superpower, and we don't want to be in conflict with them. So yeah it's not that everything they say we should abide to, but we should also not think that we can do everything without upsetting them.

echoangle 2y ago
NATO didn’t agree to not expand, some ministers of some member countries verbally said that NATO wouldn’t expand. It’s not like there was a treaty that was signed and then ignored.
- gitaarik 2y ago
  Well I guess that for Russia it doesn't really matter if the agreement was official. They still feel threatened by it, and they have been saying that, and NATO still went on.
  - echoangle 2y ago
    Ok, so then it’s fine? I know what happened, we were discussing if it’s acceptable though.
    - gitaarik 2y ago
      Then what is fine? To expand NATO? Maybe it's not fine if it causes WW3
      - echoangle 2y ago
        I was asking if Russia invading Ukraine is fine, because it was expected.
        gitaarik 2y ago
        Yeah no I'm not saying that that is necessary ok, but that we should consider making a deal with Russia instead of just continuing the war.