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if you don't want to open twitter, here is xcancel link which i should have put as the og link https://xcancel.com/SollenbergerRC/status/1895609294810464390#m h

if you don't want to open twitter, here is xcancel link which i should have put as the og link https://xcancel.com/SollenbergerRC/status/1895609294810464390#m https://xcancel.com/SollenbergerRC/status/189560929481046439...

agumonkey 2y ago
Ah, many thanks for that tip
867-5309 2y ago
finally, a nitter replacement
- esskay 2y ago
  It's just a copy of nitter on a different domain.
  - 867-5309 2y ago
    I hadn't seen one since X took over
    - DaSHacka 2y ago
      Poast runs one https://nitter.poast.org https://nitter.poast.org
  - ikt 2y ago
    it does look like nitter but I thought it was dead after twitter changed the api after musk took over?
    - codetrotter 2y ago
      It’s a nitter instance https://status.d420.de/ https://status.d420.de/
maxlin 2y ago
[flagged]
- latexr 2y ago
  I clicked the twitter link. Perhaps because I don’t have an account, I don’t see any Community Notes nor can I read any other posts in the thread, so no point in using the “official” link. And it’s not like Community Notes will remain reliable. https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-says-hell-fix-community-notes-on-x-after-it-disagreed-with-him-2000566212 https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-says-hell-fix-community-notes-...
  - maxlin 2y ago
    Because it is a pending note. Which often already are extremely relevant. Many see these as prominently as other CN's as becoming a "Community Noter" is not too hard. >And it’s not like Community Notes will remain reliable. That's as useless like saying your house might burn down in the next hour so might as well not go inside during a storm. CN's are the best weapon we have against misinformation given they require consensus from people that have disagreed in the past. Track record of CN's is unbeatable. They sure as hell are better than the abuse of flagging my factual parent comment on HN. Shame on whoever did that, but a honor system clearly isn't enough, sadly not even on HN.
    - latexr 2y ago
      No, it’s not like that in the slightest. Read the link, my comments was within its context, not made in a vaccumm. The point is precisely that one person, the owner of the platform, wants to change Community Notes to agree with his own opinions and world view.
      - maxlin 2y ago
        You clearly do not understand how Community Notes work given you're talking of "how one person wants to change them". Good thing is that no single person can change them. Their data and source code is open. So your point is nothing but some anti-Elon propaganda basically.
nottorp 2y ago
The first thing I wondered is why you'd post this information on Twitter of all places, to be honest.
- lopatamd 2y ago
  [dead]
- EasyMark 2y ago
  because they have followers there and it won't get taken down? Sometimes you have to make a deal with the devil
  - nottorp 2y ago
    > Sometimes you have to make a deal with the devil Does “engagement” justify the means?
moomin 2y ago
Also superior since I can see the replies.
yoavm 2y ago
Or just setup Redirector* to automatically redirect you to xcancel (and old.reddit.com, and away from whatever other hostile websites there are these days...) * https://github.com/einaregilsson/Redirector https://github.com/einaregilsson/Redirector
- amarcheschi 2y ago
  Cool
layer8 2y ago
HN’s policy is that one should submit the original link, hence providing a more accessible but not original link as a comment is the correct thing to do.
- amarcheschi 2y ago
  I may be wrong, but I feel that the gist of posting the direct source is to avoid websites reporting a news regarding that source. Such as, amd announcing new graphics card and a blog making a post about it. And it is understandable that it would be better to post amd own's page. I would be curious about dang opinion on posting non og link that only contain the og source repackaged in a more accessible way
  - layer8 2y ago
    It’s also to automatically deduplicate submissions of the same source. And HN does for example block archive.is for submissions, to which your argument wouldn’t apply: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37130177 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37130177 You can email hn@ycombinator.com to ask about the policy.
    - amarcheschi 2y ago
      Oh ok, it is quite useful for disambiguation. I get that
      - dang 2y ago
        To add a bit to what layer8 correctly said: it's also for displaying the original provenance of the article (i.e. the domain it came from), and for making the /from pages that list submissions from a domain work properly. That may not matter when there's just one: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=twitter.com/sollenbergerrc https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=twitter.com/sollenber... but it does when there are lots: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=twitter.com/karpathy https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=twitter.com/karpathy.

agumonkey 2y ago

Ah, many thanks for that tip

867-5309 2y ago

finally, a nitter replacement

esskay 2y ago
It's just a copy of nitter on a different domain.
- 867-5309 2y ago
  I hadn't seen one since X took over
  - DaSHacka 2y ago
    Poast runs one https://nitter.poast.org https://nitter.poast.org
- ikt 2y ago
  it does look like nitter but I thought it was dead after twitter changed the api after musk took over?
  - codetrotter 2y ago
    It’s a nitter instance https://status.d420.de/ https://status.d420.de/

maxlin 2y ago

[flagged]

latexr 2y ago
I clicked the twitter link. Perhaps because I don’t have an account, I don’t see any Community Notes nor can I read any other posts in the thread, so no point in using the “official” link. And it’s not like Community Notes will remain reliable. https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-says-hell-fix-community-notes-on-x-after-it-disagreed-with-him-2000566212 https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-says-hell-fix-community-notes-...
- maxlin 2y ago
  Because it is a pending note. Which often already are extremely relevant. Many see these as prominently as other CN's as becoming a "Community Noter" is not too hard. >And it’s not like Community Notes will remain reliable. That's as useless like saying your house might burn down in the next hour so might as well not go inside during a storm. CN's are the best weapon we have against misinformation given they require consensus from people that have disagreed in the past. Track record of CN's is unbeatable. They sure as hell are better than the abuse of flagging my factual parent comment on HN. Shame on whoever did that, but a honor system clearly isn't enough, sadly not even on HN.
  - latexr 2y ago
    No, it’s not like that in the slightest. Read the link, my comments was within its context, not made in a vaccumm. The point is precisely that one person, the owner of the platform, wants to change Community Notes to agree with his own opinions and world view.
    - maxlin 2y ago
      You clearly do not understand how Community Notes work given you're talking of "how one person wants to change them". Good thing is that no single person can change them. Their data and source code is open. So your point is nothing but some anti-Elon propaganda basically.

nottorp 2y ago

The first thing I wondered is why you'd post this information on Twitter of all places, to be honest.

lopatamd 2y ago
[dead]
EasyMark 2y ago
because they have followers there and it won't get taken down? Sometimes you have to make a deal with the devil
- nottorp 2y ago
  > Sometimes you have to make a deal with the devil Does “engagement” justify the means?

moomin 2y ago

Also superior since I can see the replies.

yoavm 2y ago

Or just setup Redirector* to automatically redirect you to xcancel (and old.reddit.com, and away from whatever other hostile websites there are these days...) * https://github.com/einaregilsson/Redirector https://github.com/einaregilsson/Redirector

amarcheschi 2y ago
Cool

layer8 2y ago

HN’s policy is that one should submit the original link, hence providing a more accessible but not original link as a comment is the correct thing to do.

amarcheschi 2y ago
I may be wrong, but I feel that the gist of posting the direct source is to avoid websites reporting a news regarding that source. Such as, amd announcing new graphics card and a blog making a post about it. And it is understandable that it would be better to post amd own's page. I would be curious about dang opinion on posting non og link that only contain the og source repackaged in a more accessible way
- layer8 2y ago
  It’s also to automatically deduplicate submissions of the same source. And HN does for example block archive.is for submissions, to which your argument wouldn’t apply: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37130177 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37130177 You can email hn@ycombinator.com to ask about the policy.
  - amarcheschi 2y ago
    Oh ok, it is quite useful for disambiguation. I get that
    - dang 2y ago
      To add a bit to what layer8 correctly said: it's also for displaying the original provenance of the article (i.e. the domain it came from), and for making the /from pages that list submissions from a domain work properly. That may not matter when there's just one: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=twitter.com/sollenbergerrc https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=twitter.com/sollenber... but it does when there are lots: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=twitter.com/karpathy https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=twitter.com/karpathy.