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The new Digg
- brh_jr 14y agoI really hate, unless I am missing something that they got rid of categories.
- obilgic 14y agohttp://about.digg.com http://about.digg.com
- veyron 14y agoFacebook requirement is a nonstarter. Even if it cuts down spam, requiring FB already eliminates a good portion of the population.
- jgrahamc 14y agoThis is great. The large scrolling format (similar to pinterest) is a good idea as the last thing that was needed was something that looked like reddit or HN. Sites like the Daily Mail have been very successful with this style. Good luck to the new Digg team!
- PatentTroll 14y agoI have to agree, I like it. While they certainly have their work cut out for them on re-building the community and on the technical front, this redesign shows a willingness to be different from the other news aggregators. It's popular to hate on digg, but I wish them the best of luck!
- snorkel 14y agoLooks like a sparse Huffington Post to me.
- glanch 14y agoYou have to be kiddding. HP is littered with useless social buttons and ridiculous drudge-style headlines. It is terrible.
- untog 14y ago...that sounds fantastic to me. I'd read a lot more HuffPo if the pages weren't so laden with crap.
- geori 14y agoIt's not HuffPo. It's a shot at BuzzFeed
- WiseWeasel 14y agoI'm not a fan. To me, this looks like a magazine, not social news. It looks curated, like I'm not meant to interact with it, but merely consume. I closed the tab pretty quickly, and I guess I can put to rest any notion of ever returning to Digg.
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- andreasklinger 14y agoRead their blog comments http://blog.digg.com/post/28441399381/welcome-to-digg-v1 http://blog.digg.com/post/28441399381/welcome-to-digg-v1 It is impressive how much hate and negativity the comments include. Sometimes we forget that while traffic keeps up community quality can easily degenerate. They will have to put also a lot of effort into community-re-building. This shows again shows to me how hard and impressive the task is they picked. It's social software. It's not only the rewriting of the software part but also rewiring te social part. Truly inspiring!
- nicholassmith 14y agoQuite frankly if it upsets all those people going "Facebook login?! I'M NEVER COMING BACK" and they don't, I'd probably be more interested in using Digg again
- mtgx 14y agoWhy would they tie their future to Facebook, though?
- Schlaefer 14y agoThey say it's a short term solution to fight submission spam. See second to the last: http://digg.com/faq#why-facebook http://digg.com/faq#why-facebook
- Baba_Chaghaloo 14y agoBecause people who use Facebook post such great content? Srs?
- nicholassmith 14y agoNo, but the people who rail against what they've said is a temporary measure with all the reasonableness of a bull smashing a china shop aren't the sort of community I'd be pleased to participate in.
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- Raphael 14y agoI hope they kept the old passages pages for SEO.
- k-mcgrady 14y agoSeems good, I like the layout. I can already see myself visiting for a daily dose of news. Reading through the comments on the blog makes me think they are going to have problems with the community. Lots of complaints about use of Facebook login even after Digg explained it was a temporary system so they could launch quicker (they are working on a system of their own).
- aniket_ray 14y agoThis has been on the front page http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4320147 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4320147 and had received pretty negative reviews from many HN users as well. Personally, I don't think that looking like a newspaper/magazine and adopting a techmeme like share mechanism is a significant enough change that the market would need.
- shellox 14y agoSure, they received many negative comments. I used the old digg as well and lets say: they trashed the old accounts, the UX/UI is worse then before and facebook login is the only option. The reactions are not that surprising.
- alaskamiller 14y agoPinterest 9gag for links.
- jgroome 14y ago...And therefore not like either Pinterest or 9gag.
- alaskamiller 14y agoTurns out it's very much like Flipboard. The idiot box is succumbing to the idiot trough.
- Irishsteve 14y agoI don't mind the whole facebook sign up process. They have a justification for it. But then when they ask can they start posting to my feed it makes me feel like they were fibbing to me the whole time! They just want free advertising via my social feed. Pft.
- shellox 14y agoI don't think their justification is plausible. They set themselves a deadline and rebuild digg in 6 weeks. Ok, nothing wrong with this so far. But now the users start complaining e.g the facebook only login, which is a no-go for some ex-digg-users(including me). They shouldn't have said then that they are able to rebuild the product in 6 weeks, because a failed restart could be more deadly than staying with the old digg for a few more weeks. They should have released the new version, when they are really finished. Now it feels like another alpha software. Just my 2 cents. edit: a chinese guy wrote a comment in their blog comments and said that digg isn't blocked in China, but facebook and twitter are. So that would just be another reason to make the facebook login optional.
- quaunaut 14y agoThis was my exact issue.
- shadesandcolour 14y agoWhat about when you click the "x" next to that permission and you don't have to worry about it anymore?
- antihero 14y agoThings I wanted to do but couldn't/couldn't immediately figure out: 1. Comment. What is the point of an aggregator without comments? 2. Go to a specific category. Are those things above the titles categories? Why aren't they clickable? WTF?
- howells 14y agoTheir argument is that commentary on the original Digg was essentially the first of its kind, whereas commentary happens "everywhere" and they need to spend time aggregating commentary too. Not sure how they can do this effectively, but will appear over the next few releases.
- betterth 14y agoHonestly, it's like releasing a car without wheels. Comments are the bread and butter of social news sites. I'm shocked and horrified that they omitted comments. It's a glorified Pinterest at the moment. I'm really disappointed - I really hoped they had learned some lessons. Comments are where community forms. Without community, you have nothing but a shiny, editor-controlled front page. Congrats, CNN 2.0 (No wait, even CNN allows comments...)
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- thewileyone 14y agoIt's trying to look like Flipboard.
- irreverentbits 14y agoThe new Digg doesn't look terrible, by any stretch. But - the developers' insistence on an arbitrary six week push deadline when there clearly remain unsolved problems is fairly amateurish and reeks of self-indulgence. Users /with existing expectations/ (which Digg invariably presents) do not care about "release early, release often." They want something that kicks ass and gets it right on the first try.
- johnmw 14y agoThey said the old Digg has very high operating costs. That may have been a factor in the rush to release the new site.
- irreverentbits 14y agoOh, fair enough. I am curious, though... what sort of operating costs might go into that? Moderators, curating content?
- robryan 14y agoKind of disagree, if users are still on the site to voice opinions that means they are pretty resilient. They aren't going to give up right away because the first release doesn't have everything.
- irreverentbits 14y agoMaybe. On the other hand, it seems like a fair amount of these opinions are "fuck this noise, I'm going to Reddit/etc." Don't get me wrong - I would absolutely love to see the new Digg rocket into popularity again... but I'm just not certain that's going to be the case.
- ColinWright 14y agoPersonally, and I'm probably in a minority, I hate these huge, slabby, infinitely scrolling displays of photos/images with precious few items on the screen. It's a lot of work to try to find any sensible number of items of interest. I seriously prefer an interface like HN - spare, clean, and information rich. Added in edit: I my POV differs significantly from that of jgrahamc: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4321826 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4321826
- fudged 14y agoHigh on irrelevant imagery, low on content. It's the same reason that I'm not fond of The Verge's layout (despite their great content). Lists of titles (old Digg, reddit, HN) is a great way to browse links.
- _delirium 14y agoI'd like something in between myself, maybe more like Slashdot but with better summaries. Or shorter ones, even, but more than the title. The problem I have with HN's titles-only index page is that there's far too much emphasis on the title as attention-grabber, which tends to favor either linkbaity things, or else stuff that is just relatively simple to state ("Company A does thing B", "Why you should use C"). In particular it disfavors things that need any context to explain, even 2 sentences of context: it has to be immediately clear from the title why you should click.
- welcomebrand 14y agoI don't like it either, I personally find it hard to establish any sort of importance or order.
- markkat 14y agoThat's what I dislike most. It doesn't have the feeling of flow that you expect from a community-content site.
- debacle 14y agoIt's great for pictures. In fact, it's better than great for pictures - you can digest thumbnails dozens at a time, and decide what you really want to look at. But for textual content, I agree with you. They're rubbish. Let me read the headlines, middle-click links, and leave it at that.
- borplk 14y agoI'm personally not a fan of this layout. Looks like Pinterest. It's good if you have some time to spare and looking for pretty images, etc... like most Pinterest users, but for power users it's too much distraction.
- hiphopopotamus 14y agoI like the minimalist look of it, but it's useless for me until they add categories or tags.
- aymeric 14y agoGood luck Digg team! You have achieved a whole lot in a short time. Some people love it, some people hate it. Whatever you do, it will happen. Stay true to your vision!
- alan_cx 14y agoHaven't they just changed their vision, what ever a vision is?
- obilgic 14y ago504 Gateway Time-out -nginx/1.1.19
- gorekee 14y agoBlock the FB script. Then you can see the page.
- octotoad 14y agoI must admit I haven't even visited digg in over four years, but wasn't it originally intended to feature user-submitted content? The front page pretty much screams the exact opposite to me. I instantly pictured a bunch of hired goons sitting in an office, submitting content in return for their weekly pay. The headlines, photos and layout reminds me of Ars Technica without the original content.
- jhony_d 14y agoFking shit
- guynamedloren 14y agoIf anyone from Digg is reading this, please make #site-header-container 2px wider. The right edge of the header is bothering the crap out of me. Other than that, great job new Digg team! Edit: after a few refreshes and zoom in/out, the header appears to be centered correctly. it seems to be offset if i resize my window and/or other random times. the header css is kinda janky, but who cares, you guys did great for a 6 week build from scratch. :)
- coin 14y agoConsistently crashes Safari on my iPad 1 when zooming in. Did they QA the new look?
- alan_cx 14y agoOK, I fire up the site. I see 6 big pictures, 6 links to actual content and minimal navigation. A whole screen and only 6 bits of actual content? Its like a children's book. And more and more sites age going for this style. Is this the web now? The BBC Olympic site has gone this route and its awful to navigate. Why is this the new way to go? IMHO, it is terrible. Look at this site, a simple and clear list of links to stories and associated comments. Simple, easy and lots of content on one screen, in my case, 27 linked stories. Please don't ever let HN go this way. I don't want big pretty pictures taking up my screen when Im trying to look for written stories to read. I am not a child.
- iuguy 14y agoI find the look interestingly different to what I expected. The loss of colour is brave (given the Digg green) but is at least a clean break, which is perhaps what's needed. It would be nice to have a small bar at the top that when clicked would show the most popular and upcoming rather than having to scroll to the bottom (although I'd keep the material at the bottom as well for those that don't notice). The Popular section looks too big for my liking. Of course the big thing is the content. How relevant is the content? Sadly on face value, it looks like it fails (but then again it would as the content will be the same as v4). In conclusion it looks nice and is a welcome break, but the content doesn't make me want to sign up. I do wish the new Digg team the best of luck though, and will check back in a while to see if the content's improved.
- johnconroy 14y agohey what gives? I'm getting "under construction". Is it because I'm in Yurop?
- blauwbilgorgel 14y agoFrom a technical point of view this "redesign" scares me a bit: All the old stories and user accounts 404 now. That is a major loss to their SEO. 14 million pages just thrown away and not passing any juice. They don't employ canonical or robots.txt. They have character encoding issues. ("'Superbird' Discovered") They use a meta keywords tag, and it contains "celebrity news", which doesn't appear anywhere on their site. They hardcode CSS with styles on div's. They don't use text-transform but type headers in all-caps. They use the HTML5 doctype, but none of the new tags or practices (like ditching the obsolete 'type="text/javascript"' on script tags). The layout breaks without javascript on, and the "upcoming stories" section doesn't get loaded. They provide no warning as to why the site's functionality stops working. They don't combine or compress resources like CSS and Javascript. They left debugging and TODO's statements in their javascript. $(".story-image-marquee-standard").empty().html("<img src='http://imoscar.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/imoscar11.gif' alt='' />"); tries to load content from a discontinued website. A lot of empty placeholder divs to js-load content into. TPL's are also stored inside the page contents. URL's are not properly encoded (space instead of %20). Links to the same article are both with 'target="_blank"' and without. They don't use microformats or schema.org.
- freehunter 14y agoThe layout breaks without javascript on I see this bandied about on reviews of various sites, and I continue to believe it doesn't matter. If you have Javascript turned off and a page doesn't load, you should know why that page isn't loading. It's because you deliberately broke it for yourself.
- orangethirty 14y agoI disagree. They broke it by not providing a fallback option. You always provide a fallback option, even if it is a simpler website.
- daleharvey 14y agoYou dont always do anything, you compare the cost of the effort against the value added, if its not worth doing, then people wont do it
- instakill 14y agoWhat it looks like to me: Pinterest on top Weird section in the middle Hacker News type thing on the bottom.
- peto123 14y agoThe design is quite ok for me, but what about the provided value? I skimmed through the links, and I saw many of them already, on other social sites I visit, I mean HN, Techmeme and reddit. What would draw me to digg could be a community of great commenters, like one on slashdot, which would add value by providing insightful/funny commentary. Without that, it's a bit redundant to me.
- human_error 14y ago> © 2012 Bananastand Inc That made my day.
- guruz 14y agoI like the fact that they incorporate fb likes and tweets to the score. This helps battling the social site chicken/egg effect and makes spam stories hopefully less likely.
- valugi 14y ago504 Gateway Time-out nginx/1.1.19
- rocky1138 14y agoThe layout is nice but the stories are still rubbish. I'll stick with Hacker News.
- mootothemax 14y agoI'll be honest, I'm surprised by how much I like it. For a quick "give me something - anything! - to read over lunch" it serves the purpose for me very well. Best of luck to the new team!
- jwl 14y agoSame here. Looks like a good front page for general news, whereas something like reddit mostly shows it benefits when you get actively into the subreddits.
- debacle 14y agoThere's far too much scrolling for far to little content. This just wont be able to compete with reddit in its current format. People who used Digg before wont come back to Digg because this Digg isn't what they want. Also, as I have the tab open, I have a notification at the bottom of the screen: "We're hard at work on finding new stories for you... Try refreshing in a few minutes." Extremely professional.
- AlexanderZ 14y agoThe team had to make drastic changes. They wanted people to forget about the old Digg and its fiasco. The best way to do it? Become completely different. They also needed to become different from their rivals. That's why I don't understand why people here are complaining on the new format. I personally find it great and novel. The clean design and only six stories in sight allow you to focus and actually pay more attention to each of the stories. When I see 30 stories clumped into one page, I run through their titles like a mad man, often reading just 50% of the words. Having just 6 stories eliminates the haste, it allows me to relax and slowly study all the stories before deciding if I want to read them further. I like the new Digg. I think the team made a right move with the new format. Now all they need is really good content on the front page and users will come. I know I will check it again tomorrow.
- johnbellone 14y agoNo they absolutely didn't. All the team needed to do is put a fresh coat of paint on Digg, similar to it was in the beginning, and capitalize on the traffic before they wanted to make drastic changes. Digg's whole problem started with when they tried to become the Twitter of news. That's not original intent of the site. If you purchased all that data, all that SEO linking, you'd have to be absolutely crazy not to migrate over at least the stories into your new design. These guys completely dropped the ball.
- geon 14y agoThey can't really expect to compete with Reddit on the exact same concept. They need to niche themselves.
- AlexanderZ 14y agoSo, put a fresh coat of paint on a product that failed miserably? Why is that a good idea? They didn't pay for the data and SEO linking, they paid for the name and buzz in the media. In my opinion they are not using the old data on purpose, they don't want to have anything in common with the v4 at all. It's not modified Digg, it's a completely new Digg. This is how I'm reading their message.
- orangethirty 14y agoIt looks like a plain version of yahoo. What is their goal here? If I were digg, I'd just hire a bunch of engineers, and let them put out a new product under the old name. Something not directly related to their past. Though I would keep their archives online for SEO.
- ThomPete 14y agoAs much as I think the new design is great. I do not believe it's going to solve anything let alone Diggs fundamental problem.
- zachinglis 14y agoDesign wise. It's clean, and lacks personality - which I presume is the point to impartiality. The makes me think of the phrase 'go big or go home.' This is not a big enough departure from the last Digg to really warrant a whole rewrite and losing the original posts. To be honest; it seems only a step away from traditional newspaper websites - which have the benefit of the zero-hour news feed. They need to inject yet more community back into this. As someone who's spent a decent amount of time leading the redesign on a newspaper site - I remember putting far more innovation into a traditional newspaper site than this has.
- aen 14y agoLooks like http://www.likabl.es http://www.likabl.es and http://dropula.com http://dropula.com. I still prefer the Reddit/HN style layout. Feels like reading a magazine (no sense of rank) now rather than a list of ranked articles.
- geon 14y agoI'm surprised (not really) how people complains about how this will cause the last remaining Digg users to leave. As I see it, this is not just a redesign of the old Digg, but a whole new site with a diffrent concept. Much like "Dig is dead. Long live Digg!"
- executive 14y agoannnnd it's down.
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- crazygringo 14y agoI'm surprised to discover I actually like the layout. Mainly because, with sites like Reddit, much of the time the content is just an image, and you're just interested in the top couple of comments. If they can put this content straight onto the main page, it's actually more efficient to consume. I hope they implemented threaded votable comments soon, though -- the community discussion is the main thing, for a lot of people!
- tluyben2 14y agoWhat CMS did they use; the URLs look from something enterprisey like Vignette?
- rawoke 14y agoFeels like the New York times ?
- seqizz 14y ago504 Gateway Time-out , that is a big improvement
- 3minus1 14y agoAre there no comments? To me that's half the reason I go to a site like reddit of hacker news, maybe more.
- dhugiaskmak 14y agoThe new Digg took longer than 3 seconds to load so I didn't bother.
- razdjp 14y agoHmm .. I kinda like it.
- kitcar 14y agoI am getting "504 Gateway Time-out" when I visit the page
- antidaily 14y agoMe too.
- l3nz 14y ago"504 Gateway Time-out". Seems quite a radical redesign.
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- tomrod 14y agoOh the irony. I get a 503 error.
- tomrod 14y agoMake that a 504.
- IanDrake 14y agoThe new Digg.... 504 Gateway Time-out nginx/1.1.19 Well I'm underwhelmed.
- rsobers 14y agoLooks a lot like Mahalo.com.
- zbuc 14y agoThe plain text on the site looks blurry on a retina MacBook. I'm not sure how they even managed to make that happen. It's throwing nginx 504 timeouts now too...
- h00k 14y agoIt looks good, here's what I see: 504 Gateway Time-out nginx/1.1.19
- lolz 14y ago504 Gateway Time-out nginx/1.1.19 Looks like they're trying to replicate Reddit's feel too closely! I like it!
- brongondwana 14y ago"502 Bad Gateway". I see the HTTP standard has already captured everything you need to know about digg's relationship to the internet in one succinct phrase.
- gunmetal 14y agoThe new digg == 504 Gateway timeout. Great job guys.
- rjernigan 14y agoDigg, Reddit, and Hacker News are easy to browse for a reason. I like the redesign, but I don't think it fits with social news Digg-style. When I go to a site like reddit or Digg, I know I'm not going to like every article posted. Mostly, I want to find what is interesting to me as fast as possible. Sites with large images and scattered, newspaper-style layouts make it hard for me to find what I want. This layout would work on a focused blog where I know that I am interested in most of the articles, but not on a mass news aggregator.
- dhyasama 14y agoThis thread makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a toothpick. The nitpicking is outrageous. Think about your last project with a tight deadline. OMG a bad meta tag made in! Should we delay the release? If you are running a business not a personal site the answer should ALWAYS be no. This is a website not shrink wrapped software. It can be updated a hundred times a day. Meta tags can be changed. It's ok to roll out a site that isn't 100% where you want it to be. I, for one, welcome the new Digg and look forward to them improving their meta tags.
- jabber_123 14y agoBy removing comments, the Digg staff deserve to all get laid off.
- at-fates-hands 14y agoI would point to Best Buy as a prime example of this "release now, worry about the flaws later" philosophy. Their website has been a mess for years mostly because of this very approach. It's an old adage, but you should really do it right the first time.
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- SolarUpNote 14y agoWhere are the comments? The comments are much more important than page layout or the number of tweets.
- com2kid 14y agoI opened the page, was overwhelmed with images, scrolled down a bit, saw that the information overload continued, and closed it. When I open it, I have no idea what I am supposed to do. Information dense pictures are being shown to me across two dimensions, my eyes have no clue what flow to follow. Newspapers have had hundreds of years to learn how to make these sort of layouts work, it seems like Digg said "screw that, we're just going to shove it all out there!"
- entelarust 14y agoaaaaaandddddddd they are down... http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/digg.com http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/digg.com