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People love to pile on - it's a popular modern social game. But in this case they are damaging something especially valuable, one of the leading privacy and fr
by mmooss 2y ago
People love to pile on - it's a popular modern social game.
But in this case they are damaging something especially valuable, one of the leading privacy and freedom organizations in the world, during a very dangerous time. (And also one that doesn't buy or organize an army of 'grassroots' support.)
Cui bono?
I think Mozilla has made clear that they use the data for things the user requests. If someone thinks otherwise, please quote the current language (not the language from two days ago).
They also are innovators in privacy-preserving advertising. Almost anything else on the web is much worse: it has ads and collects personal data. Not only does Mozilla not collect personal data, if they can create effective privacy-preserving advertising, they could transform privacy (again) by not only sharing this technology but demonstrating to government that the privacy violations are unnecessary for business profitability.
Yet people are throwing all that out for the energy and excitement of piling on. That's a really bad choice, as far as I can see. If that's not what's happening, why are almost all posts expressed that way? How about some reasonable, calm discussion?
- mort96 2y agoSorry, but only Mozilla is damaging Mozilla here. Anyone could have predicted that their actions these past days would be devastating to their reputation.
- mmooss 2y ago[flagged]
- mort96 2y agoIf you asked some random selection of technical people, "hey if Mozilla just went ahead and made a ToS which gives Mozilla a broad license to anything you enter into Firefox, then removed the text 'Mozilla won't sell your data' from their FAQ pages, how would people react?" I think 99.9% of people would've predicted that the reaction would be negative. These things aren't as impossible to anticipate as you pretend. This backlash is 100% predictable, 100% Mozilla's fault, and 100% deserved.
- mmooss 2y ago> "hey if Mozilla just went ahead and made a ToS which gives Mozilla a broad license to anything you enter into Firefox, then removed the text 'Mozilla won't sell your data' from their FAQ pages But that's not what happened; that's the piling on. Mozilla says they will can use the data to do things that you request them to do.