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This is a funny case where Mozilla thought they are clarifying their position by pointing out how ridiculously CA defines "sales" only for it to blow up in thei
by rdtsc 2y ago
This is a funny case where Mozilla thought they are clarifying their position by pointing out how ridiculously CA defines "sales" only for it to blow up in their face. This is not the first time it happens to companies where in an act of desperation they issue some "apology" or explanation only to make the whole thing worse.
Now people will read even more carefully their privacy policy https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/#notice https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/#notice and may find things like:
> Firefox also shows its own search suggestions based on information stored on your local device (including recent search terms, open tabs, and previously visited URLs). These suggestions may include sponsored suggestions from Mozilla’s partners [...] or relevant URLs that are popular in your country.
> Mozilla processes [...] how many searches you perform, how many sponsored suggestions you see and whether you interact with them.
> Mozilla collects technical and interaction data, such as the position, size, views and clicks on New Tab content or ads, to understand how people are interacting with our content [...] This data may be shared with our advertising partners on a de-identified or aggregated basis.
> we share data across Mozilla-controlled affiliates and subsidiaries. We [...] disclose personal data as part of a corporate transaction, such as a merger, acquisition, sale of assets or similar transaction
> [...] retain personal data for more than 25 months, but actual retention periods may vary depending on the type of data and the purpose(s) for which it was collected
[Definitions]
> Technical data : Device type, operating system, IP address, ISP
> Settings: Enhanced Tracking Protection settings, cookie settings, permissions (location, camera, microphone), toolbar customization.
> Location : Country code, city.
> Precise Location: Your precise location (within a few feet or meters).
> Interaction data : How many tabs you have open or what you’ve clicked on. Click counts, impression data, attribution data, how many searches performed, time on page, ad and sponsored tile clicks.
> Browsing data: [...] websites and URLs you’ve visited. [...] (travel, shopping, social media), top level domains (example.com) or specific web pages visited.
- mmooss 2y agoBased on the parent, all the collected data preserves privacy: > Firefox also shows its own search suggestions based on information stored on your local device That data stays on your computer ... > Mozilla processes [...] how many searches you perform, how many sponsored suggestions you see and whether you interact with them. That description contains no user content: number of searches, number of ads, whether you interact says nothing about you - it doesn't say what you click on or see, just that you clicked. > position, size, views and clicks on New Tab content or ads Again, there is no content mentioned, just number of clicks and not what you click on. > [Definitions] This section defines terms; it doesn't say they are doing anything.
- the_other 2y agoHow do they decide which sponsored ad to show you?
- IYasha 2y agoUsually it's the sponsor who decides. Because, for example, it's pointless to show Walmart ads in North Korea. (I'm not a mz insider)
- devmor 2y agoOn your device: "Interests: Candles, Wooden Sculptures, Underwater Basket Weaving" Advertiser: "Show this to users who like Candles." Mozilla: "OK" That's pretty standard and can be used to track people on the advertiser's side still, depending on how the ad itself is served and how clicks on the ad are processed.
- ummonk 2y agoDoes Firefox download information about every ad that advertisers have paid for, and then match against local data to decide which ad to serve? If not, when it queries to find out which ads to serve, what data does is sent with that query (or prior to that query)?
- EasyMark 2y agoWhen you keep the ip address, that often gives people everything that they need, along with "fingerprinting" data. Especially governments and huge corps like facebook/google/amazon, as they have you IP @ {date}/{time} as well. Match it up and you have the golden calf.