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I get the nostalgia for XP, it was the first windows consumer edition that didn’t suck, but for a server OS 2000 was so lean and easy to manage it makes me wond

I get the nostalgia for XP, it was the first windows consumer edition that didn’t suck, but for a server OS 2000 was so lean and easy to manage it makes me wonder how MS lost to Linux. Back then, it was a genuine competition, now you’d have to be crazy to choose windows to deploy anything.

genewitch 2y ago
i never used windows XP, i went from 2000 pro to XP x64 edition, which came out 2 years after XP did.
Hnrobert42 2y ago
Maybe, but Win 3.1 was good for me.
p_ing 2y ago
Windows Server still has it's place. AD DS, file services, and SQL Server being the big ones. Linux doesn't have apps that do these things 'better'.
- EvanAnderson 2y ago
  I wish MSFT could build Active Directory and the associated constellation of services on Linux. You can make a reasonable simulacrum with Samba but it isn't as well-integrated. (My fever dream wish is for a "distribution" of NT that boots in text mode and has an updated Interix subsystem alongside Win32. Throw in ZFS and it would be awesome.)
  - p_ing 2y ago
    An NT that boots into text mode wouldn't be terribly useful for software designed for NT today given the high dependency on UI libraries. I too wish for an NT that was CLI-only, striped of services as much as possible. Starting Windows NT... C:\> It's too bad Microsoft has no interest as a business in on-prem software.
    - EvanAnderson 2y ago
      Server Core is close to what you're talking about re: CLI only. I agree re: MSFT having no interest in on-prem software. It saddens me.
      - p_ing 2y ago
        Core isn't close. It's still a graphical interface.
        EvanAnderson 2y ago
        I guess I misread you, then. I thought you were arguing that a text mode wouldn't be useful. That's why I suggested Server Core. It's CLI, but uselessly framed in a GUI framework. Like I said in my earlier post, text mode NT is my fever dream fantasy. Maybe you were saying the same thing.
        p_ing 2y ago
        Yes, I was saying the same thing. There are very few applications we could run on a text-mode DOS/Linux-CLI type NT due to the upstream dependencies that require (or implement) a graphical interface. Text-only mode would be wonderful even if all you could do is look at a blinking cursor.

genewitch 2y ago

i never used windows XP, i went from 2000 pro to XP x64 edition, which came out 2 years after XP did.

Hnrobert42 2y ago

Maybe, but Win 3.1 was good for me.

p_ing 2y ago

Windows Server still has it's place. AD DS, file services, and SQL Server being the big ones. Linux doesn't have apps that do these things 'better'.

EvanAnderson 2y ago
I wish MSFT could build Active Directory and the associated constellation of services on Linux. You can make a reasonable simulacrum with Samba but it isn't as well-integrated. (My fever dream wish is for a "distribution" of NT that boots in text mode and has an updated Interix subsystem alongside Win32. Throw in ZFS and it would be awesome.)
- p_ing 2y ago
  An NT that boots into text mode wouldn't be terribly useful for software designed for NT today given the high dependency on UI libraries. I too wish for an NT that was CLI-only, striped of services as much as possible. Starting Windows NT... C:\> It's too bad Microsoft has no interest as a business in on-prem software.
  - EvanAnderson 2y ago
    Server Core is close to what you're talking about re: CLI only. I agree re: MSFT having no interest in on-prem software. It saddens me.
    - p_ing 2y ago
      Core isn't close. It's still a graphical interface.
      - EvanAnderson 2y ago
        I guess I misread you, then. I thought you were arguing that a text mode wouldn't be useful. That's why I suggested Server Core. It's CLI, but uselessly framed in a GUI framework. Like I said in my earlier post, text mode NT is my fever dream fantasy. Maybe you were saying the same thing.
        p_ing 2y ago
        Yes, I was saying the same thing. There are very few applications we could run on a text-mode DOS/Linux-CLI type NT due to the upstream dependencies that require (or implement) a graphical interface. Text-only mode would be wonderful even if all you could do is look at a blinking cursor.