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I just can't subscribe to the notion that "god" is walking around with a measuring instrument and carefully distributing talents in a 50% manner. Or that solel

I just can't subscribe to the notion that "god" is walking around with a measuring instrument and carefully distributing talents in a 50% manner. Or that solely due to one's talents a person is obliged to "serve the society" in hers designated role. Do I believe that diversity is good? Hell yeah! Do I believe that enforcing mandatory quotas is the way to improve overall quality? Hell no. If anything we should spend more resources on overall quality. And I am really afraid that this focus on females will cost us dearly. There is a lot of evidence that we are losing whole generations of boys. How is (not intentionally, mind you) making men feebler going to help society is beyond my comprehension.

kolinko 14y ago
Why did you assume I'm for mandatory quotas? The only thing I'm saying is that a plenty of people get pushed by society into suboptimal life choices. Mutiple research from various countries says that girls are as good at math/computer skills as boys, up to the graduation from high schools. After high school they don't choose science in universities though. Why could that be? If the distribution of talent is exactly the same in high school within boys & girls, I'd expect that they'd pick similar directions at universities. If they don't, it means that some of them waste their talents. I don't believe mandatory quotas are the solutions, I'm all against it. But I think we've got a problem, because we could have twice as many great programmers, and great scientists.
- JanezStupar 14y ago
  I did not assume that you are for mandatory quotas. It was more of a general remark, since a lot of times the talk of gender equality is thinly veiled advocacy for mandatory gender quotas. And I believe that (honest) gender equality advocates should be hell bent against mandatory quotas and not accepting them as "better state of affairs" or a "temporary compromise".
  - demewmew 14y ago
    > It was more of a general remark, since a lot of times the talk of gender equality is thinly veiled advocacy for mandatory gender quotas. Really? Honestly, the only people I see talking about gender quotas are the people who are fervently against them, which is why I suspect kolinko took your comment about gender quotas the way they did.

kolinko 14y ago

Why did you assume I'm for mandatory quotas? The only thing I'm saying is that a plenty of people get pushed by society into suboptimal life choices. Mutiple research from various countries says that girls are as good at math/computer skills as boys, up to the graduation from high schools. After high school they don't choose science in universities though. Why could that be? If the distribution of talent is exactly the same in high school within boys & girls, I'd expect that they'd pick similar directions at universities. If they don't, it means that some of them waste their talents. I don't believe mandatory quotas are the solutions, I'm all against it. But I think we've got a problem, because we could have twice as many great programmers, and great scientists.

JanezStupar 14y ago
I did not assume that you are for mandatory quotas. It was more of a general remark, since a lot of times the talk of gender equality is thinly veiled advocacy for mandatory gender quotas. And I believe that (honest) gender equality advocates should be hell bent against mandatory quotas and not accepting them as "better state of affairs" or a "temporary compromise".
- demewmew 14y ago
  > It was more of a general remark, since a lot of times the talk of gender equality is thinly veiled advocacy for mandatory gender quotas. Really? Honestly, the only people I see talking about gender quotas are the people who are fervently against them, which is why I suspect kolinko took your comment about gender quotas the way they did.