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I think most Americans of various stripes would endorse this. Europe is more than welcome to saber-rattle on its own budget.

drawkward 2y ago
How is defending against Putin's encroachment on a soverign country "saber-rattling"?
- jim-jim-jim 2y ago
  If X is encroaching on Y and you're all the way over in Z, you're not defending yourself; you're deliberately getting getting involved in someone else's problem. Maybe the numbers are in your favor, or it's "the right thing to do," but Europeans have been using similar rationale to destroy their continent over and over again for centuries. I'm not judging at this point—it's probably just in your blood. The rest of the world just wants you to pay for it from here on out.
  - drawkward 2y ago
    This sounds a lot like being pro-bully. Also, it sounds like you dont unserstand what saber-rattling is. Putin is the one who is saber rattling. We are helping him pay for it by helping him steal land from Ukraine.
_DeadFred_ 2y ago
Am American and yeah no.
dangjc 2y ago
I think most Americans value freedom and reject tyranny.
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- DamnYuppie 2y ago
  Yeah and we don't need Europe to be free. Europe needs America. We are not equals in this.
  - bjoli 2y ago
    Donald Trump just turned the USA into a liability. I don't know how anyone can think this is a good idea. Like people thinking killing USAID was a good idea. Guess who is going to pick up to collect the good will USAID gave? China, or possibly some other country that thinks the US hegemony was a bad thing. How can people not see that Trump is weakening USA?
    - corey_moncure 2y ago
      If China wants to start paying for queer theater in Lesotho, I say they are more than welcome to! But I wouldn't hold my breath for this to happen... Have a Nice Day :)
      - defrost 2y ago
        If there's any mineral, water, or food supply advantage to doing so they'll be there with Pink Yuen before the undrunk US coffees cool on the table. China is nothing if not pragmatic and there's central party policy vs. China's regulated but somewhat free market here. It was the US after all that forced the sale of Grindr by the Chinese Beijing Kunlun Tech to San Vicente Acquisition for ~ $600 million. I dare say fear of communists having a direct line to toe tapping Republicans drove that.
      - bjoli 2y ago
        Don't be silly. Have a look at all the waste that is being claimed and you will notice that the things that are questionable (apart from the irrigation in Afghanistan, which had some unfortunate effects) all sin up to less than a half percent of the USAID budget. Plus that the people doing the cutting have no clue what they are doing. First the 50 millions dollars for hamas condoms and then not even knowing how government contracts work. It is like watching the evening of amateurs, but where the stakes are people's lives and the world order.

drawkward 2y ago

How is defending against Putin's encroachment on a soverign country "saber-rattling"?

jim-jim-jim 2y ago
If X is encroaching on Y and you're all the way over in Z, you're not defending yourself; you're deliberately getting getting involved in someone else's problem. Maybe the numbers are in your favor, or it's "the right thing to do," but Europeans have been using similar rationale to destroy their continent over and over again for centuries. I'm not judging at this point—it's probably just in your blood. The rest of the world just wants you to pay for it from here on out.
- drawkward 2y ago
  This sounds a lot like being pro-bully. Also, it sounds like you dont unserstand what saber-rattling is. Putin is the one who is saber rattling. We are helping him pay for it by helping him steal land from Ukraine.

_DeadFred_ 2y ago

Am American and yeah no.

dangjc 2y ago

I think most Americans value freedom and reject tyranny.

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DamnYuppie 2y ago
Yeah and we don't need Europe to be free. Europe needs America. We are not equals in this.
- bjoli 2y ago
  Donald Trump just turned the USA into a liability. I don't know how anyone can think this is a good idea. Like people thinking killing USAID was a good idea. Guess who is going to pick up to collect the good will USAID gave? China, or possibly some other country that thinks the US hegemony was a bad thing. How can people not see that Trump is weakening USA?
  - corey_moncure 2y ago
    If China wants to start paying for queer theater in Lesotho, I say they are more than welcome to! But I wouldn't hold my breath for this to happen... Have a Nice Day :)
    - defrost 2y ago
      If there's any mineral, water, or food supply advantage to doing so they'll be there with Pink Yuen before the undrunk US coffees cool on the table. China is nothing if not pragmatic and there's central party policy vs. China's regulated but somewhat free market here. It was the US after all that forced the sale of Grindr by the Chinese Beijing Kunlun Tech to San Vicente Acquisition for ~ $600 million. I dare say fear of communists having a direct line to toe tapping Republicans drove that.
    - bjoli 2y ago
      Don't be silly. Have a look at all the waste that is being claimed and you will notice that the things that are questionable (apart from the irrigation in Afghanistan, which had some unfortunate effects) all sin up to less than a half percent of the USAID budget. Plus that the people doing the cutting have no clue what they are doing. First the 50 millions dollars for hamas condoms and then not even knowing how government contracts work. It is like watching the evening of amateurs, but where the stakes are people's lives and the world order.