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its easy to hide data behind percentages and say 94% of the blacks who had a certain GPA where admitted. look at the raw numbers, study after study have shown i

its easy to hide data behind percentages and say 94% of the blacks who had a certain GPA where admitted. look at the raw numbers, study after study have shown improved care for colored patients and outcome better when treated by black physicians which indicates we have to have proportional numbers of black and hispanic physicians representative of their population. If whites and asians disproportionately apply to medical schools their admission rates are going to look different. The systemic advantage afforded to affluent kids by being brought up for 18+ years by highly educated parents is not level playing field.

evulhotdog 2y ago
This is a study my wife wrote regarding this exact scenario, trying to see if patients think they’re getting better care if they’re similar to the doctor (and team) treating them!
evulhotdog 2y ago
Forgot the link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37801560/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37801560/
- NoImmatureAdHom 2y ago
  This study has nothing to do with the claim being made by the grandparent comment.
NoImmatureAdHom 2y ago
"study after study have shown improved care for colored patients and outcome better when treated by black physicians" This is false. You're probably getting this idea second hand from this study: https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.1913405117 https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.1913405117 Probably because it was famously misused by SC Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, who got it wildly wrong https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2024/06/14/statistics-blunder-at-the-supreme-court/ https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2024/06/14/statistics... Anyway, that study is bogus: https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.2415159121 https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.2415159121 The only evidence for your claim that I know of is an NBER paper https://www.nber.org/bah/2018no4/does-doctor-race-affect-health-black-men https://www.nber.org/bah/2018no4/does-doctor-race-affect-hea... Where they randomly assign black male patients to white or black doctors, IIRC, and patients get advice on preventative care. Outcomes for black patients are better because they are more willing to take black doctors' advice. Obviously, newborns in the first study, so it's about doctor competence straight-up.

evulhotdog 2y ago

This is a study my wife wrote regarding this exact scenario, trying to see if patients think they’re getting better care if they’re similar to the doctor (and team) treating them!

evulhotdog 2y ago

Forgot the link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37801560/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37801560/

NoImmatureAdHom 2y ago
This study has nothing to do with the claim being made by the grandparent comment.

NoImmatureAdHom 2y ago

"study after study have shown improved care for colored patients and outcome better when treated by black physicians" This is false. You're probably getting this idea second hand from this study: https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.1913405117 https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.1913405117 Probably because it was famously misused by SC Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, who got it wildly wrong https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2024/06/14/statistics-blunder-at-the-supreme-court/ https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2024/06/14/statistics... Anyway, that study is bogus: https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.2415159121 https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.2415159121 The only evidence for your claim that I know of is an NBER paper https://www.nber.org/bah/2018no4/does-doctor-race-affect-health-black-men https://www.nber.org/bah/2018no4/does-doctor-race-affect-hea... Where they randomly assign black male patients to white or black doctors, IIRC, and patients get advice on preventative care. Outcomes for black patients are better because they are more willing to take black doctors' advice. Obviously, newborns in the first study, so it's about doctor competence straight-up.