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Ask HN: How do you feel now about your Tesla purchase?

18 points by metadat 2y ago

Now that the cat is out of the bag, how do you feel about your Tesla purchase? I traded mine in for a Rivian this week, couldn't stomach it anymore.

toomuchtodo 2y ago
I have four and I won’t buy another until he’s no longer associated with the enterprise. Test driving an F150 Lightning tomorrow.
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andreygrehov 2y ago
Love it! Zero issues with my Teslas. Don't like the design of Rivian. > couldn't stomach it anymore Why?
- orsorna 2y ago
  I find this kind of sealioning really unproductive, given the publicity around Tesla's owner right now. I highly doubt someone with your resumé and levels of capital ownership would need any of this context explained, let alone the average HN reader.
  - andreygrehov 2y ago
    I love my car irrespective of public opinion about Tesla's owner. Media narratives don't affect the reliability of my car or the comfort I experience driving it. I simply enjoy the vehicle for what it is.
    - bigyabai 2y ago
      Feels like this is the same playbook Google, Meta and Apple apologists all roll out. "I love this product because I am oblivious to the immediate political consequences of owning it. You can't make me care about security or privacy until I decide to care about it!" At least we now know with hindsight that every Google, Apple and Meta product was completely benign. At least, that's what my deprivation from media narratives tells me.
    - CamperBob2 2y ago
      Wait'll you try to sell or trade it.
      - andreygrehov 2y ago
        I know that the price of a Tesla vehicle has gone down, but I'm not looking to sell my car. It has no reliability issues. Not once have I had to repair anything. The battery is performing great. Why would I sell it? I understand that five years from now, the battery may not be as good as it is today. But if you own, say, a BMW—the holy grail of car engineering—good luck keeping it after the warranty expires. My other Tesla is on lease, so I couldn't care less about the price drops.
  - ivewonyoung 2y ago
    > I find this kind of sealioning really unproductive, given the publicity around Tesla's owner right now. These assumptions(including the ones in the submission) is only true within a certain bubble and an echo chamber. Strange that half the country isnt even acknowledged and are actively downvoted and flagged to stop them from engaging, which works well.
    - acdha 2y ago
      You don’t appear to have any trouble engaging and your only downvoted posts appear to low-quality, is this like the imaginary “cancel culture” claims where people with national reach pretended that they had been silenced? It’s not an echo chamber to notice that Tesla’s owner linking his identity to an extremely partisan role turns off the approximately half of people who don’t share his politics: https://navigatorresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Navigator-Topline-F02.24.25.pdf https://navigatorresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Nav... That’s not a bubble, it’s just basic business sense: if you’re in a competitive market, there a cost to giving people a reason to look elsewhere and especially so when most of your historical buyers have been in the opposing camp. It’s why you don’t know how the CEOs of Ford or Toyota vote, because they are smart enough not to jeopardize their long-term future just for a little publicity now.
      - ivewonyoung 2y ago
        Just 4 comments down you didn't see this one? > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43101536 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43101536 I got downvoted(without a counterpoint reply) for asking for sources and making a fact based assertion. There's probably dozens of examples like that. On Reddit you see comments with dozens of downvotes for replying with a simple fact "Musk founded SpaceX" to a comment which says "Musk bought all his companies" which has hundreds or thousands of upvotes. > You don’t appear to have any trouble engaging Many a time I stop myself from commenting even though I think have a good counterpoint because I get dowvoted(which sometimes restricts commenting for like an hour or two and you get time limited) and flagged. Not to mention personal attacks when I made a good point because people are angry. It's all one sided posts making the front page for the most part. Reddit is wayyyy worse though, I had to stop engaging there. > It’s not an echo chamber It's hard to see the bubble when you're inside it. It's like having green goggles on all the time the world looks green. It's hard for people to even understand that for some people the world may not look green. I never voted Republican in my life anyway and may not, but it's really hard not to miss all the abject bias everywhere.
  - enslavedrobot 2y ago
    Musk owns 15% of Tesla. He is not Teslas owner. Most of Tesla is owned by retail shareholders and index funds.
phaggot 2y ago
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- vanrysss 2y ago
  The handle by which you've chosen to go on this site says a lot about you.
- realitysballs 2y ago
  Username is as insular as your comment
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loudmax 2y ago
I wouldn't hold owning a Tesla against anyone, especially if they bought it before 2024. Lots of people bought their Teslas before Elon Musk became full-on red-pill woke. Now that Cybertruck is another story, there's no excuse for that monstrosity.
- cassianoleal 2y ago
  https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/29/we-will-coup-whoever-we-want-elon-musk-and-the-overthrow-of-democracy-in-bolivia/ https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/29/we-will-coup-whoever... This was in 2020. Is it only bad when it's about Europe and the US?
sshine 2y ago
Did you ever wear HUGO BOSS clothes, or use an IBM computer? Do you know what they did in WWII?
- sidibe 2y ago
  In WW2 is a key factor here. 80 years ago Driving a new Tesla now especially a Cybertruck is signalling a lot about yourself. To many people it shows at best you don't care at all about politics, and the worst is much worse. I'm sure that won't deter some but it clearly has influenced other consumers especially for a company who's consumer base has been environmentalists
- CamperBob2 2y ago
  Nobody working there now had anything to do with Nazis or WWII. In fact, a good way to get fired from either company is to be seen throwing Hitler salutes in public.
- rsynnott 2y ago
  Well, I mean, no; the clothes aren’t really my thing, and a home AS/400 seems a bit silly. However, there’s a difference between “this corporate entity supported the Nazis 80 years ago, albeit all humans involved are now dead” (absent a corporate death penalty you’re always going to get this) and “the CEO of this company is prancing around doing Nazi salutes _right now_”. Like, seriously, can you not see that?
  - sshine 2y ago
    > the CEO of this company is prancing around doing Nazi salutes _right now_ > Like, seriously, can you not see that? If you see him heil, you're reading into it. Just because you don't like someone, you can't make up stuff about them. This is what's wrong with American politics. Truth doesn't matter. I'd expect more from fellow engineers.
dzhiurgis 2y ago
It’s great.
nunez 2y ago
Extremely conflicted. Love our Teslas. FSD is incredible. But I helped support Elon becoming what he is now. Not a good feeling. I sold all of my Tesla stocks, though.
gnat 2y ago
I find it a comfortable, fast, long-range, and mostly reliable car. I enjoy driving it. I do not enjoy being associated with Musk. If I could trade my four-year-old Tesla for a four-year-old EV of equivalent comfort, speed, range, and reliability then I would. However, Musk has destroyed the resale value of my car. My biggest fear is now that the company won't be able to survive his behaviour, and I'll be left with the motoring equivalent of a pacemaker made by a startup that went under.

18 points by metadat 2y ago

Now that the cat is out of the bag, how do you feel about your Tesla purchase? I traded mine in for a Rivian this week, couldn't stomach it anymore.

toomuchtodo 2y ago

I have four and I won’t buy another until he’s no longer associated with the enterprise. Test driving an F150 Lightning tomorrow.

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andreygrehov 2y ago

Love it! Zero issues with my Teslas. Don't like the design of Rivian. > couldn't stomach it anymore Why?

orsorna 2y ago
I find this kind of sealioning really unproductive, given the publicity around Tesla's owner right now. I highly doubt someone with your resumé and levels of capital ownership would need any of this context explained, let alone the average HN reader.
- andreygrehov 2y ago
  I love my car irrespective of public opinion about Tesla's owner. Media narratives don't affect the reliability of my car or the comfort I experience driving it. I simply enjoy the vehicle for what it is.
  - bigyabai 2y ago
    Feels like this is the same playbook Google, Meta and Apple apologists all roll out. "I love this product because I am oblivious to the immediate political consequences of owning it. You can't make me care about security or privacy until I decide to care about it!" At least we now know with hindsight that every Google, Apple and Meta product was completely benign. At least, that's what my deprivation from media narratives tells me.
  - CamperBob2 2y ago
    Wait'll you try to sell or trade it.
    - andreygrehov 2y ago
      I know that the price of a Tesla vehicle has gone down, but I'm not looking to sell my car. It has no reliability issues. Not once have I had to repair anything. The battery is performing great. Why would I sell it? I understand that five years from now, the battery may not be as good as it is today. But if you own, say, a BMW—the holy grail of car engineering—good luck keeping it after the warranty expires. My other Tesla is on lease, so I couldn't care less about the price drops.
- ivewonyoung 2y ago
  > I find this kind of sealioning really unproductive, given the publicity around Tesla's owner right now. These assumptions(including the ones in the submission) is only true within a certain bubble and an echo chamber. Strange that half the country isnt even acknowledged and are actively downvoted and flagged to stop them from engaging, which works well.
  - acdha 2y ago
    You don’t appear to have any trouble engaging and your only downvoted posts appear to low-quality, is this like the imaginary “cancel culture” claims where people with national reach pretended that they had been silenced? It’s not an echo chamber to notice that Tesla’s owner linking his identity to an extremely partisan role turns off the approximately half of people who don’t share his politics: https://navigatorresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Navigator-Topline-F02.24.25.pdf https://navigatorresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Nav... That’s not a bubble, it’s just basic business sense: if you’re in a competitive market, there a cost to giving people a reason to look elsewhere and especially so when most of your historical buyers have been in the opposing camp. It’s why you don’t know how the CEOs of Ford or Toyota vote, because they are smart enough not to jeopardize their long-term future just for a little publicity now.
    - ivewonyoung 2y ago
      Just 4 comments down you didn't see this one? > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43101536 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43101536 I got downvoted(without a counterpoint reply) for asking for sources and making a fact based assertion. There's probably dozens of examples like that. On Reddit you see comments with dozens of downvotes for replying with a simple fact "Musk founded SpaceX" to a comment which says "Musk bought all his companies" which has hundreds or thousands of upvotes. > You don’t appear to have any trouble engaging Many a time I stop myself from commenting even though I think have a good counterpoint because I get dowvoted(which sometimes restricts commenting for like an hour or two and you get time limited) and flagged. Not to mention personal attacks when I made a good point because people are angry. It's all one sided posts making the front page for the most part. Reddit is wayyyy worse though, I had to stop engaging there. > It’s not an echo chamber It's hard to see the bubble when you're inside it. It's like having green goggles on all the time the world looks green. It's hard for people to even understand that for some people the world may not look green. I never voted Republican in my life anyway and may not, but it's really hard not to miss all the abject bias everywhere.
- enslavedrobot 2y ago
  Musk owns 15% of Tesla. He is not Teslas owner. Most of Tesla is owned by retail shareholders and index funds.

phaggot 2y ago

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vanrysss 2y ago
The handle by which you've chosen to go on this site says a lot about you.
realitysballs 2y ago
Username is as insular as your comment

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loudmax 2y ago

I wouldn't hold owning a Tesla against anyone, especially if they bought it before 2024. Lots of people bought their Teslas before Elon Musk became full-on red-pill woke. Now that Cybertruck is another story, there's no excuse for that monstrosity.

cassianoleal 2y ago
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/29/we-will-coup-whoever-we-want-elon-musk-and-the-overthrow-of-democracy-in-bolivia/ https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/29/we-will-coup-whoever... This was in 2020. Is it only bad when it's about Europe and the US?

sshine 2y ago

Did you ever wear HUGO BOSS clothes, or use an IBM computer? Do you know what they did in WWII?

sidibe 2y ago
In WW2 is a key factor here. 80 years ago Driving a new Tesla now especially a Cybertruck is signalling a lot about yourself. To many people it shows at best you don't care at all about politics, and the worst is much worse. I'm sure that won't deter some but it clearly has influenced other consumers especially for a company who's consumer base has been environmentalists
CamperBob2 2y ago
Nobody working there now had anything to do with Nazis or WWII. In fact, a good way to get fired from either company is to be seen throwing Hitler salutes in public.
rsynnott 2y ago
Well, I mean, no; the clothes aren’t really my thing, and a home AS/400 seems a bit silly. However, there’s a difference between “this corporate entity supported the Nazis 80 years ago, albeit all humans involved are now dead” (absent a corporate death penalty you’re always going to get this) and “the CEO of this company is prancing around doing Nazi salutes _right now_”. Like, seriously, can you not see that?
- sshine 2y ago
  > the CEO of this company is prancing around doing Nazi salutes _right now_ > Like, seriously, can you not see that? If you see him heil, you're reading into it. Just because you don't like someone, you can't make up stuff about them. This is what's wrong with American politics. Truth doesn't matter. I'd expect more from fellow engineers.

dzhiurgis 2y ago

It’s great.

nunez 2y ago

Extremely conflicted. Love our Teslas. FSD is incredible. But I helped support Elon becoming what he is now. Not a good feeling. I sold all of my Tesla stocks, though.

gnat 2y ago

I find it a comfortable, fast, long-range, and mostly reliable car. I enjoy driving it. I do not enjoy being associated with Musk. If I could trade my four-year-old Tesla for a four-year-old EV of equivalent comfort, speed, range, and reliability then I would. However, Musk has destroyed the resale value of my car. My biggest fear is now that the company won't be able to survive his behaviour, and I'll be left with the motoring equivalent of a pacemaker made by a startup that went under.