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This this makes Europe less free than the USA. Again, nothing wrong with that. Just leaves a sour taste in my mouth to try to twist facts.

libertine 2y ago
Freedom to promote Nazism and to promote the rehabilitation of Nazis isn't welcomed in Europe. Yes, it might theoretically make Europe less free, and now you have the Twitter guy being a member of the US administration doing Nazi salutes and promoting far right parties. Suddenly Hitler was a victim. Like the disregard for the thousands of young men lost on the D day and to the war, to reach this freedom you're preaching. Yet that doesn't seem to leave any sour taste, go figure. But I have to ask, why you want the freedom for people to be able to promote Nazism?
- ein0p 2y ago
  Uh https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-nazi-ss-veterans-hold-annual-march-in-latvia-square-one-woman-fights-back/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-nazi-ss-veterans-hold-an..., https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-of-ukrainian-nationalists-march-in-in-honor-of-nazi-collaborator/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-of-ukrainian-national..., https://www.timesofisrael.com/thousands-of-estonian-far-right-supporters-hold-torchlight-march-ahead-of-polls/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/thousands-of-estonian-far-righ..., https://defendinghistory.com/sebastian-pammer-reports-on-neo-nazi-parade-vilnius-11-march-2011/13404 https://defendinghistory.com/sebastian-pammer-reports-on-neo... That's just the first page of search results. Are you sure that rehabilitation of Nazis isn't welcomed in Europe?
- A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2y ago
  I want people to be free to pull in all sorts of directions. There is no exceptions for things I don't like.
  - libertine 2y ago
    But that's your problem, don't try to shove that onto others, that's why we learn History in school. If you want people to be free to promote Nazism, xenophobia, ethnophobia, racism, etc, and you're good with that because History hasn't taught you anything, that's your problem, not ours.
    - A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2y ago
      Heh. No. It is officially now your problem as well. Things magically don't stop existing just because you close your eyes and pretend they are not there. And here is a very practical reasons why you DO want to be able have people openly say whatever. If you can't see it, you don't even know it is a problem that may need to be addressed. At best, it is a very naive viewpoint.
      - libertine 2y ago
        Not really my problem, as there are laws in place where I'm from. Just because things exist doesn't mean you should have a platform to promote them, this is a very basic concept. Doesn't look like you understand that allowing the promotion of Nazism will do exactly that, promote Nazism.
        A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2y ago
        << Doesn't look like you understand that allowing the promotion of Nazism will do exactly that, promote Nazism. You don't have to promote, but it would help if you did not actively suppress, which ties back my original point about being able to actually track what is going on. That is the problem with some people. They really do think they can control what and how people think. No. Scratch that. They really think they can influence how they will think. << Not really my problem, as there are laws in place where I'm from. There are laws here too, but lately some were rather hellbent on going around them by 'partnering'.
        libertine 2y ago
        That makes literally no sense. I never said that there should be an institution to promote Nazism, people will do that. Look at Twitter, look at Elon Musk, that's what's happening on that front. Now on alternative media, like , Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, promoting Russian propaganda stating that Hitler was a victim, and WW2 was Poland's fault, among other absurd takes that only people with low cognitive capacity and deficient education would believe. This absurdity is reaching people in the US, and you want to protect that - which makes me question your true intentions lmao If you believe that you can't influence people's behavior and how they think, you have not even a basic understanding on the subject and we will end our engagement here. If you want to promote Nazism, and protect that, you're on the right track, but don't expect people from nation with proper institutions to follow through. Just deal with that. Hopefully X will be banned in a lot of countries, the sooner the better.

libertine 2y ago

Freedom to promote Nazism and to promote the rehabilitation of Nazis isn't welcomed in Europe. Yes, it might theoretically make Europe less free, and now you have the Twitter guy being a member of the US administration doing Nazi salutes and promoting far right parties. Suddenly Hitler was a victim. Like the disregard for the thousands of young men lost on the D day and to the war, to reach this freedom you're preaching. Yet that doesn't seem to leave any sour taste, go figure. But I have to ask, why you want the freedom for people to be able to promote Nazism?

ein0p 2y ago
Uh https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-nazi-ss-veterans-hold-annual-march-in-latvia-square-one-woman-fights-back/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-nazi-ss-veterans-hold-an..., https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-of-ukrainian-nationalists-march-in-in-honor-of-nazi-collaborator/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-of-ukrainian-national..., https://www.timesofisrael.com/thousands-of-estonian-far-right-supporters-hold-torchlight-march-ahead-of-polls/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/thousands-of-estonian-far-righ..., https://defendinghistory.com/sebastian-pammer-reports-on-neo-nazi-parade-vilnius-11-march-2011/13404 https://defendinghistory.com/sebastian-pammer-reports-on-neo... That's just the first page of search results. Are you sure that rehabilitation of Nazis isn't welcomed in Europe?
A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2y ago
I want people to be free to pull in all sorts of directions. There is no exceptions for things I don't like.
- libertine 2y ago
  But that's your problem, don't try to shove that onto others, that's why we learn History in school. If you want people to be free to promote Nazism, xenophobia, ethnophobia, racism, etc, and you're good with that because History hasn't taught you anything, that's your problem, not ours.
  - A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2y ago
    Heh. No. It is officially now your problem as well. Things magically don't stop existing just because you close your eyes and pretend they are not there. And here is a very practical reasons why you DO want to be able have people openly say whatever. If you can't see it, you don't even know it is a problem that may need to be addressed. At best, it is a very naive viewpoint.
    - libertine 2y ago
      Not really my problem, as there are laws in place where I'm from. Just because things exist doesn't mean you should have a platform to promote them, this is a very basic concept. Doesn't look like you understand that allowing the promotion of Nazism will do exactly that, promote Nazism.
      - A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2y ago
        << Doesn't look like you understand that allowing the promotion of Nazism will do exactly that, promote Nazism. You don't have to promote, but it would help if you did not actively suppress, which ties back my original point about being able to actually track what is going on. That is the problem with some people. They really do think they can control what and how people think. No. Scratch that. They really think they can influence how they will think. << Not really my problem, as there are laws in place where I'm from. There are laws here too, but lately some were rather hellbent on going around them by 'partnering'.
        libertine 2y ago
        That makes literally no sense. I never said that there should be an institution to promote Nazism, people will do that. Look at Twitter, look at Elon Musk, that's what's happening on that front. Now on alternative media, like , Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, promoting Russian propaganda stating that Hitler was a victim, and WW2 was Poland's fault, among other absurd takes that only people with low cognitive capacity and deficient education would believe. This absurdity is reaching people in the US, and you want to protect that - which makes me question your true intentions lmao If you believe that you can't influence people's behavior and how they think, you have not even a basic understanding on the subject and we will end our engagement here. If you want to promote Nazism, and protect that, you're on the right track, but don't expect people from nation with proper institutions to follow through. Just deal with that. Hopefully X will be banned in a lot of countries, the sooner the better.