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I think it's a fine rule of thumb but what does Putin have to gain from negotiating with Zelenskyy who he is seen as a Western puppet orchestrated as legacy of
by aparticulate 2y ago
I think it's a fine rule of thumb but what does Putin have to gain from negotiating with Zelenskyy who he is seen as a Western puppet orchestrated as legacy of US intel agency involvement? (Which we admitted is true…)
People in this thread are completely incapable of seeing any legitimacy in any Russian concerns about Ukraine.
- snowwrestler 2y agoWhether someone's concerns are legitimate is in the eye of the beholder, but actions can be directly observed. Unilateral violent invasion must not become a legitimate tactic again. It was the norm for centuries, and excluding it resulted in the fastest rise in global living standards in history--including in the U.S. and Russia.
- aparticulate 2y agoDo you recommend violent 2014 coups instead? That is our position on Ukraine, officially.
- snowwrestler 2y agoYes, actually, that’s how a lot of modern states got founded.
- aparticulate 2y agolegitimate is in the eye of the beholder is right!
- run4yourlives2 2y agoThe US was literally created the same way.
- aparticulate 2y ago[flagged]
- int_19h 2y agoThe coup happened before 2014, when Yanukovich took over the supreme court and reverted the country's constitution.
- actionfromafar 2y agoI'm just raising concerns! With a howitser.
- aparticulate 2y agoSo NATO is literally trying to kill Putin, what formal legal avenue would you like Russia to take? Decades of NATO enlargement. What do you expect? Poke bear enough and it will bite you! But don’t be shocked…
- actionfromafar 2y agoPutin could have kicked back and enjoyed his dacha like other less powerful dictators do all over the world, but no, he had to write a "scientific" treatise about Ruski Mir and how the Ukraine isn't actually a thing. He wants a legacy. Well, he got it and whatever happens in the war, Russia is cooked. It's never coming back from this. It will either fracture from the war going badly, or it will become a vassal state of China, and ironically, perhaps the US, the way things are going with the White House these days.
- aparticulate 2y agoThe other powerful “dictators” get dragged through the streets or hanged for daring to enjoy an economic system outside the US dollar. Putin knows this and so should you.
- actionfromafar 2y agoIt's very easy. To not get dragged in the streets as a dictator, you need a) nukes and b) chill in your dacha. Putins actions now actually exposed himself to the dragged-in-the-streets treatment, by his own people. But it's all worth it, because of Ruski Mir.