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Ukraine is sending troops over 26 or so years old now. They will need to dip into their prime-aged young population eventually, the 18-to-26-year-olds. That wil
by nwatson 2y ago
Ukraine is sending troops over 26 or so years old now. They will need to dip into their prime-aged young population eventually, the 18-to-26-year-olds. That will be a hard moral choice they apparently want to avoid, but perhaps necessary.
- slt2021 2y agoAll these 18 year old cohort - they dont exist in Ukraine anymore, a lot of them escaped Ukraine while they were minors before reaching 18, because this issue of conscripting 18+ has been discussed for quite a while. If you look at the reports from Ukraine high schools - its all girls class, no boys
- artem2471 2y agoSorry what? Reports from Ukrainian high schools? I live in Ukraine, this is not true.
- slt2021 2y agoi have no way to verify, just judging from the news headlines from what I read https://lenta.ru/news/2025/02/16/ukrainskie-klassy-ostalis-bez-malchikov/ https://lenta.ru/news/2025/02/16/ukrainskie-klassy-ostalis-b... translated: https://lenta-ru.translate.goog/news/2025/02/16/ukrainskie-klassy-ostalis-bez-malchikov/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://lenta-ru.translate.goog/news/2025/02/16/ukrainskie-k... There are almost no boys left in senior classes of Ukrainian schools. This was reported by the publication "Strana.ua" on the Telegram channel with reference to blogger Alena Yakhno. As the blogger said, the 17-year-old son of her friend studies in Kiev , but all his classmates have left. "Only girls are left in the class. There will be no moral. It's just a fact," she wrote. The publication recalled that upon reaching the age of 18, young people from Ukraine are no longer allowed to go abroad. In addition, the report notes, information about Ukrainian schoolchildren aged 16-17 leaving Ukraine en masse has appeared before. Earlier, the Verkhovna Rada reported on hundreds of thousands of schoolchildren who left the country before the start of the school year. According to MP Nina Yuzhina, about 300 thousand students, mostly high school students, left Ukraine in July and August. In addition, due to the departure of young people, 2,114 schools have been closed in Ukraine over the past four years.
- dmitriy9000 2y agoI don't know if original claim is true or not in general, but lenta.ru in particular is a poor source of information, it's heavily skewed into Russian-government side.
- etc-hosts 2y agoThe media operation Strana is mentioned as the source for the lenta.ru story. Strana is sanctioned and banned by the Ukrainian government, though Ukraine government hands out a lot of media bans. It's a bummer that just about every media outlet in Ukraine is either tightly linked to Russian propaganda, or on the other side its mostly super pro Ukrainian (formerly funded by USAID) outlets with ties to weird libertarian billionaires who want to turn Ukraine into free market paradise. Hardly any middle ground.
- slt2021 2y agonot everything is a conspiracy theory. Sometimes, reported news are actually true, this is from Ukraine's Education Minister: https://www-unian-net.translate.goog/society/osoblivo-hlopci-u-minosviti-rozkrili-masshtabi-vijizdu-shkolyariv-z-ukrajini-12784530.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www-unian-net.translate.goog/society/osoblivo-hlopci... Just think about it logically, if you are a mother of 16 y.o kid, and USA says you must conscript 18+ y.o to receive any further aid - would you just sit and wait for your child to get drafted on his next birthday?
- koakuma-chan 2y agoYep, I left Ukraine 3 years ago when I was 16.
- blast 2y agoWow. That's such a huge change. I hope it has been ok for you and wish you a great future. Do you want to share a bit of your story? 3 years ago would mean you left right at the start of the war. How do you feel about that now?
- koakuma-chan 2y agoThere are pros and cons. I live in Canada now, and one major downside is that, because technically I would be an international student, I cannot afford a university. The tuition fee for international students is through the roof. But, ultimately, leaving Ukraine was a correct decision, because otherwise I would have ended up fighting Russia. In summary, it sucks but could have been worse.
- blast 2y agoYes, that sucks. What would you like to study at university if you get the chance?
- koakuma-chan 2y agoThat would be Computer Science.
- blast 2y agoI was hoping you would say that, because it's a technical field you can do very well in without a university degree. I don't mean to minimize your loss, but I cheer for you to succeed despite it.
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- enriquto 2y agoAs a graybeard with teenage kids, this is terribly disheartening... I would rather be cannon fodder than my sons. After all, I have already reproduced and I have taught hundreds of youngsters all what I knew. I would gladly accept that my contribution to mankind is already done and gone, before seeing one of my children go to war. Is youth so important for soldiers? Wouldn't it be better to send forty and fifty year olds to the front? Anything before 18-26 youngs? It makes no sense. Are they so much more competent than any random middle-age?
- slt2021 2y agoUkraine has churned all their greybeards and middle age folks, and 18+ are the only ones not conscripted yet. (Hence Trump's comment that Ukraine is having manpower issues and has no strong cards left for negotiations)
- actionfromafar 2y agoIt hasn't any strong cards only because the west (which is now Europe - the US is almost at Russias side now) is trickling the weapons supply. Open the taps!
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- actionfromafar 2y agoWhat's the point of more recruits when the existing ones don't get enough training and adequate equipment? Ukraine needs weapons far more than it needs manpower.