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On the minerals front, the US doesn't need anything from Ukraine. Most of the minerals mentioned, except titanium, are un-mined deposits. Or things the US has p
by Animats 2y ago
On the minerals front, the US doesn't need anything from Ukraine. Most of the minerals mentioned, except titanium, are un-mined deposits. Or things the US has plenty of already, such as oil, natural gas, coal, and iron.
Here's a rundown:
- Rare earths:
I've mentioned the MP Minerals, Mountain Pass, CA mine before.
The US doesn't have enough rare earth refining
capability, and China won't export the technology.
So US ore goes to China for processing.
Or did, until DoD paid for a separation plant
at Mountain Pass. That problem is close to being
solved. That new separation plant is running.
A plant for the final step, making magnet-ready metal,
has been built in Texas, again by MP Minerals,
and it's about ready to open.
What's happened with rare earths is not that
they're rare. It's that China undercut US
prices so much that the Mountain Pass mine
went bankrupt. Twice. In 2015, there was a
rare earths glut. Look at WSJ
rare earths articles back to 2011.
There are large un-mined rare earth deposits in
Colorado and Wyoming, with startups talking
about mining them. Whether this makes
economic sense is unclear. If all those
start up, the price will crash again and they
all go bust.
Three years ago, the US rare earths situation looked bad.
Not today.
- Uranium
The US has plenty of uranium resources. Canada
and the US are historically the biggest producers.
- Titanium
Titanium ore has supposedly been discovered in Tennessee.
See https://iperionx.com/ https://iperionx.com/
Are those guys for real? Not clear.
- Lithium
The US produces about 75% of the lithium it uses.
New deposits have been found in Arkansas:
https://www.usgs.gov/news/national-news-release/unlocking-arkansas-hidden-treasure-usgs-uses-machine-learning-show-large https://www.usgs.gov/news/national-news-release/unlocking-ar...
And in Nevada:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCWeZiVsotc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCWeZiVsotc
- Graphite
China is the leading producer, but Canada and Norway are ramping up.
There hasn't been US production of natural graphite since the 1950s.
US production of synthetic graphite satisfies most US demand.
(https://pubs.usgs.gov/publication/pp1802J https://pubs.usgs.gov/publication/pp1802J) Several new synthetic graphite
plants are being built in the US.
As we've seen in rare earths, when the cheaper sources raise their prices, domestic production increases.
It seems to take about three to five years to get a big mining operation going.
Quietly, during the previous administration, there was funding for US mineral projects in
rare earths, graphite, and lithium. It's no secret, but most
coverage is from sites that cover mining and minerals.
- cmrdporcupine 2y agoNot sure why you're counting Canadian uranium deposits on the American balance sheet. So far at least, these are under our own control and we still have the free will to decide how they are traded. Unless the new regime in the US really wants to show its true hand, I guess. Maybe we can toss a 25% export tariff on them, since the US is trying to strangle our economy anyways.
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- Karellen 2y ago> On the minerals front, the US doesn't need anything from Ukraine. Need's got nothing to do with it. Bullies don't take what you have because they need it, they take it because that's what you have, and they want to take it away from you, just to be taking it away from you. For Trump, it is not enough that (as he perceives the situation) he wins, rather than (as he perceives) everyone else loses. Even people's whose backs are up against the wall. Especially people whose backs are up against the wall. If you don't exploit the weakest player at the table, why are you even playing? (Not that Trump knows anything about gambling... who the fuck loses money running a casino... on multiple separate occasions...) Trump isn't making deals based on carefully considered advantages and concessions. He's just grasping his tiny hands at whatever comes in reach, whether or not he needs it, like the half-wit schoolyard thug he is.
- Hikikomori 2y agoI dont understand how anyone is not seeing that trump just want to gobble up parts of Ukraine for his own gain, it's no better than the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, Trump is just angry he's late to the party. There will be no guarantees for Ukraine and no concessions for Russia once this deal is signed.
- Animats 2y ago> Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact Germany, not Russia, broke that one. Worth watching: Neville Chamberlain's famous "Peace for our time" speech. "I have here a paper signed by the German Chancellor, Herr Hitler."[1] And the crowd cheers. Trump signing a comparable agreement with Putin is all too possible. [1] https://youtu.be/_gGppFLNaio?t=44 https://youtu.be/_gGppFLNaio?t=44