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I'm skeptical that it is only the Right. Maybe predominantly, or more explicitly, but anyone wanting power and control on either side would want to sell themsel

I'm skeptical that it is only the Right. Maybe predominantly, or more explicitly, but anyone wanting power and control on either side would want to sell themselves out, too.

mrtesthah 2y ago
Oh, you mean people like Jill Stein? Sure. Notably, she has never been part of the mainstream left. https://archive.thinkprogress.org/jill-stein-campaign-russia-ecf424ac3b7e/ https://archive.thinkprogress.org/jill-stein-campaign-russia... https://www.salon.com/2024/09/23/jill-stein-paid-100000-to-a-consulting-firm-led-by-a-suspected-january-6-rioter https://www.salon.com/2024/09/23/jill-stein-paid-100000-to-a... https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/russians-launched-pro-jill-stein-social-media-blitz-help-trump-n951166 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/russians-... https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/democracy-now/clip/why-jill-stein-attended-moscow-dinner-with-putin-and-flynn https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/democracy-now/clip/why-jill-s...
sReinwald 2y ago
It is not only targeting the Right. I'd suggest that Russia isn't primarily interested in bolstering the right specifically. They are interested in dividing national societies as well international alliances along any possible ideological issue, effectively shattering the entire thing - divide et impera. You can see some indication of this in the Mueller report on Russia's election interference in the US, and the DOJ indictment against Prigozhin and his Internet Research Agency troll factory. They kept playing both sides: pushing Facebook groups that were strong pro racial justice & BLM while also pushing pro cop / back the blue Facebook groups. At some point, they scheduled protests for both sides of this particular issue at the same time and place, clearly hoping for altercations. But I think it's safe to say that, at least in the US, their efforts seem to have mainly focused on the Republican side. However, here in Germany, both the populist far-right AfD and the populist far-left political Party BSW around former Linke politician Sarah Wagenknecht are very much aligned with Russian interests: https://www.dw.com/en/russias-best-friends-in-germany-afd-and-bsw/a-70072663 https://www.dw.com/en/russias-best-friends-in-germany-afd-an...
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throwaway173738 2y ago
Why not compare their actions? We have a previous president who tried to maintain the constitutional political process in the US right up to handing off to the current administration. And then we have a current administration who seems to want to sow a bunch of chaos and a majority in congress who were fine complaining about circumventing legislators in the previous administration but who now do nothing to stop it. So given those actions, do you still believe that both sides would stop at nothing to hold on to power?

I'm skeptical that it is only the Right. Maybe predominantly, or more explicitly, but anyone wanting power and control on either side would want to sell themselves out, too.

mrtesthah 2y ago

Oh, you mean people like Jill Stein? Sure. Notably, she has never been part of the mainstream left. https://archive.thinkprogress.org/jill-stein-campaign-russia-ecf424ac3b7e/ https://archive.thinkprogress.org/jill-stein-campaign-russia... https://www.salon.com/2024/09/23/jill-stein-paid-100000-to-a-consulting-firm-led-by-a-suspected-january-6-rioter https://www.salon.com/2024/09/23/jill-stein-paid-100000-to-a... https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/russians-launched-pro-jill-stein-social-media-blitz-help-trump-n951166 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/russians-... https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/democracy-now/clip/why-jill-stein-attended-moscow-dinner-with-putin-and-flynn https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/democracy-now/clip/why-jill-s...

sReinwald 2y ago

It is not only targeting the Right. I'd suggest that Russia isn't primarily interested in bolstering the right specifically. They are interested in dividing national societies as well international alliances along any possible ideological issue, effectively shattering the entire thing - divide et impera. You can see some indication of this in the Mueller report on Russia's election interference in the US, and the DOJ indictment against Prigozhin and his Internet Research Agency troll factory. They kept playing both sides: pushing Facebook groups that were strong pro racial justice & BLM while also pushing pro cop / back the blue Facebook groups. At some point, they scheduled protests for both sides of this particular issue at the same time and place, clearly hoping for altercations. But I think it's safe to say that, at least in the US, their efforts seem to have mainly focused on the Republican side. However, here in Germany, both the populist far-right AfD and the populist far-left political Party BSW around former Linke politician Sarah Wagenknecht are very much aligned with Russian interests: https://www.dw.com/en/russias-best-friends-in-germany-afd-and-bsw/a-70072663 https://www.dw.com/en/russias-best-friends-in-germany-afd-an...

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throwaway173738 2y ago

Why not compare their actions? We have a previous president who tried to maintain the constitutional political process in the US right up to handing off to the current administration. And then we have a current administration who seems to want to sow a bunch of chaos and a majority in congress who were fine complaining about circumventing legislators in the previous administration but who now do nothing to stop it. So given those actions, do you still believe that both sides would stop at nothing to hold on to power?