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> Keep sending billions to Ukraine? Yes, absolutely. Ukraine falling to Russia represents a huge threat to the security of Europe. After Ukraine, Putin would

by kelnos 2y ago

> Keep sending billions to Ukraine? Yes, absolutely. Ukraine falling to Russia represents a huge threat to the security of Europe. After Ukraine, Putin would likely take Belarus, possibly invade Poland or Finland. A weak Europe, one that is dominated by Russia, would be disastrous to the US, both abroad and at home. It is sad to me that so many Trump supporters are too short-sighted to see this. What we've spent (and could spend going forward) in Ukraine is a teeny tiny price to pay to help ensure this doesn't come to pass. America isn't about freedom anymore, it seems. It's about cozying up to dictators and appeasing them. I was disappointed in my fellow citizens after the 2016 election, but I could kinda understand what was going on. Now I'm just disgusted. > Send American soldiers to die? No, of course not, and this is such a bad-faith argument, as no one is seriously suggesting that.

imgabe 2y ago
We are $36 trillion in debt and it is growing by a trillion dollars every 100 days. Continuing to send hundreds of billions to a losing war is a bigger threat to the US. The war will end. Russia will offer concessions that benefit the US. They are not going to steamroll Europe. Europe can step up and contribute to Europe’s defense.
- amanaplanacanal 2y ago
  Russia will offer concessions that benefit the president and his friends, you mean.
- sjsdaiuasgdia 2y ago
  People like you in 2014: "We should not push back against Russia's annexation of Crimea. It will allow the war to end. They are not going to invade Ukraine to take other territory."
- dpc050505 2y ago
  American debt is lucrative as long as you don't alienate the whole world by behaving completely irrationally. The USD being the world's transfer currency means that you can finance debt at the lowest interest rate on the planet and use that debt on more productive investments, which is what the USA's government is doing. There's a reason why the US still has a stellar credit rating. American debt is lucrative and you morons are fucking up your cash cow because you don't understand banking and are willing to let a handful of crypto bros try to accelerate the international monetary system's downfall so that they can try to replace it by some bullshit rug pull coin that doesn't even have the technology to function as global currency.
- dashundchen 2y ago
  The Republicans in charge now are responsible for a good chunk of that debt. $8 trillion in PPP helicopter money + tax cuts for the wealthy during Trump's term, plus trillions more for Bush's tax cuts and Afghanistan/Iraq warcrimes. And they're looking to double down by giving billionaries trillions more in tax cut while driving up the debt. Trump/Musk/GOP do not actually care about debt or spending, it's a distraction.
- consteval 2y ago
  The debt will only grow under Republican leadership. Framing this as an economic issue is disingenuous, and we all know it. That debt goes straight into enriching the already rich.

by kelnos 2y ago

imgabe 2y ago

We are $36 trillion in debt and it is growing by a trillion dollars every 100 days. Continuing to send hundreds of billions to a losing war is a bigger threat to the US. The war will end. Russia will offer concessions that benefit the US. They are not going to steamroll Europe. Europe can step up and contribute to Europe’s defense.

amanaplanacanal 2y ago
Russia will offer concessions that benefit the president and his friends, you mean.
sjsdaiuasgdia 2y ago
People like you in 2014: "We should not push back against Russia's annexation of Crimea. It will allow the war to end. They are not going to invade Ukraine to take other territory."
dpc050505 2y ago
American debt is lucrative as long as you don't alienate the whole world by behaving completely irrationally. The USD being the world's transfer currency means that you can finance debt at the lowest interest rate on the planet and use that debt on more productive investments, which is what the USA's government is doing. There's a reason why the US still has a stellar credit rating. American debt is lucrative and you morons are fucking up your cash cow because you don't understand banking and are willing to let a handful of crypto bros try to accelerate the international monetary system's downfall so that they can try to replace it by some bullshit rug pull coin that doesn't even have the technology to function as global currency.
dashundchen 2y ago
The Republicans in charge now are responsible for a good chunk of that debt. $8 trillion in PPP helicopter money + tax cuts for the wealthy during Trump's term, plus trillions more for Bush's tax cuts and Afghanistan/Iraq warcrimes. And they're looking to double down by giving billionaries trillions more in tax cut while driving up the debt. Trump/Musk/GOP do not actually care about debt or spending, it's a distraction.
consteval 2y ago
The debt will only grow under Republican leadership. Framing this as an economic issue is disingenuous, and we all know it. That debt goes straight into enriching the already rich.