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> It no longer represents American interests, but Russian interests Disagree. Trump is in this for himself. If he appears to represent Russian interests that's

> It no longer represents American interests, but Russian interests Disagree. Trump is in this for himself. If he appears to represent Russian interests that's likely because he has made some kind of deal with Putin that benefits him personally. It has been reported that he has been talking to Putin before he was elected for the second term [1]. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-putin-talked-many-7-2021-new-book-claims-rcna174528 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-putin-ta...

bloomingkales 2y ago
Everything he does is related to grift. A Ukraine-American minerals deal will probably have many layers of agencies and private contractors involved. All kinds of side dealings and under the table contracts will be exchanged where the Trump enterprise can skim off everything, like hedge fund fees. Such a deal has no place in a peace deal where thousands of people have died. Stop the war first.
GolfPopper 2y ago
Donald Trump - whose business "got all the funding we need out of Russia"[1] stood up in front of the press and requested the Russian government target his opponent's email... and the Russian government immediately did so.[2] There has been a great deal of circumstantial evidence since, with little to anything to rebut it. This may very well be a quid pro quo rather than naked pro-Russian partisanship, but the practical difference for the United States is negligible. 1. https://thehill.com/homenews/news/332270-eric-trump-in-2014-we-dont-rely-on-american-banks-we-have-all-the-funding-we/ https://thehill.com/homenews/news/332270-eric-trump-in-2014-... 2.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/russia-hacked-hillary-clinton-computer-hours-after-trump-request-attorney/ar-AA1rtnRo https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/russia-hacked-hillar...
- breadwinner 2y ago
  If there's any remaining doubt that Trump has an under-the-table deal with Putin consider this: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth last week ordered U.S. Cyber Command to stand down from all planning against Russia, including offensive digital actions [1]. [1] https://therecord.media/hegseth-orders-cyber-command-stand-down-russia-planning https://therecord.media/hegseth-orders-cyber-command-stand-d...
b112 2y ago
There is something going in for sure, but the man knows in his heart that he will be dead soon. Surviving his term at his great age will be impressive. Old men often don't care about personal help, so look to his kin/family for benefits.
- breadwinner 2y ago
  > Old men often don't care about personal help This is no ordinary old man though. Look at how many times he has mentioned third term as President.
  - GuinansEyebrows 2y ago
    Many old men are delusional.
  - luxuryballs 2y ago
    He’s trolling dude, just like he said he was better than George Washington. There’s some kind of duality in US politics where people either take Trump seriously but not literally, or they take him literally and not seriously (the latter leading to all sorts of confusion, though often it’s intentional confusion).
    - breadwinner 2y ago
      > He’s trolling dude During election when Trump said outrageous things, a lot of people had the same attitude as you, and downplayed Trump's comments: he's trolling... he is bluffing... it is just a distraction tactic... it is a negotiation tactic... and so on. Then after he got elected and actually started doing the things he said he would the same people are like... "Trump is delivering exactly what he promised what he would deliver when he started this campaign. This is what the American people voted for!"
      - luxuryballs 2y ago
        wasn’t the context of the comment above about Canada becoming a 51st state? I feel like people just aren’t paying attention
dragonwriter 2y ago
> Trump is in this for himself. If he appears to represent Russian interests that's likely because he has made some kind of deal with Putin that benefits him personally. That's usually how one state usually acheives a compromise of another state’s government, by finding the right weak links and making deals with them (the chief of state and/or head of government, and especially the person holding an office which serves simultaneously as both, is pretty much the ideal case for this, though in practice it is often only people a few steps down.) So, while that description is true, it supports and explains rather than contradicts the claim that Russia has compromised the US government.
tim333 2y ago
Trump is probably in it for himself and also helping himself by representing Russian interests. He's no doubt had a lot of money and support from Russia and probably wouldn't even have become president without them. I think he's hoping for some deal where he / the US / the minerals corporation control half of Ukraine and Putin controls the other half and Zelensky and Ukrainian democracy just get in the way of that.

bloomingkales 2y ago

Everything he does is related to grift. A Ukraine-American minerals deal will probably have many layers of agencies and private contractors involved. All kinds of side dealings and under the table contracts will be exchanged where the Trump enterprise can skim off everything, like hedge fund fees. Such a deal has no place in a peace deal where thousands of people have died. Stop the war first.

GolfPopper 2y ago

Donald Trump - whose business "got all the funding we need out of Russia"[1] stood up in front of the press and requested the Russian government target his opponent's email... and the Russian government immediately did so.[2] There has been a great deal of circumstantial evidence since, with little to anything to rebut it. This may very well be a quid pro quo rather than naked pro-Russian partisanship, but the practical difference for the United States is negligible. 1. https://thehill.com/homenews/news/332270-eric-trump-in-2014-we-dont-rely-on-american-banks-we-have-all-the-funding-we/ https://thehill.com/homenews/news/332270-eric-trump-in-2014-... 2.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/russia-hacked-hillary-clinton-computer-hours-after-trump-request-attorney/ar-AA1rtnRo https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/russia-hacked-hillar...

breadwinner 2y ago
If there's any remaining doubt that Trump has an under-the-table deal with Putin consider this: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth last week ordered U.S. Cyber Command to stand down from all planning against Russia, including offensive digital actions [1]. [1] https://therecord.media/hegseth-orders-cyber-command-stand-down-russia-planning https://therecord.media/hegseth-orders-cyber-command-stand-d...

b112 2y ago

There is something going in for sure, but the man knows in his heart that he will be dead soon. Surviving his term at his great age will be impressive. Old men often don't care about personal help, so look to his kin/family for benefits.

breadwinner 2y ago
> Old men often don't care about personal help This is no ordinary old man though. Look at how many times he has mentioned third term as President.
- GuinansEyebrows 2y ago
  Many old men are delusional.
- luxuryballs 2y ago
  He’s trolling dude, just like he said he was better than George Washington. There’s some kind of duality in US politics where people either take Trump seriously but not literally, or they take him literally and not seriously (the latter leading to all sorts of confusion, though often it’s intentional confusion).
  - breadwinner 2y ago
    > He’s trolling dude During election when Trump said outrageous things, a lot of people had the same attitude as you, and downplayed Trump's comments: he's trolling... he is bluffing... it is just a distraction tactic... it is a negotiation tactic... and so on. Then after he got elected and actually started doing the things he said he would the same people are like... "Trump is delivering exactly what he promised what he would deliver when he started this campaign. This is what the American people voted for!"
    - luxuryballs 2y ago
      wasn’t the context of the comment above about Canada becoming a 51st state? I feel like people just aren’t paying attention

dragonwriter 2y ago

> Trump is in this for himself. If he appears to represent Russian interests that's likely because he has made some kind of deal with Putin that benefits him personally. That's usually how one state usually acheives a compromise of another state’s government, by finding the right weak links and making deals with them (the chief of state and/or head of government, and especially the person holding an office which serves simultaneously as both, is pretty much the ideal case for this, though in practice it is often only people a few steps down.) So, while that description is true, it supports and explains rather than contradicts the claim that Russia has compromised the US government.

tim333 2y ago

Trump is probably in it for himself and also helping himself by representing Russian interests. He's no doubt had a lot of money and support from Russia and probably wouldn't even have become president without them. I think he's hoping for some deal where he / the US / the minerals corporation control half of Ukraine and Putin controls the other half and Zelensky and Ukrainian democracy just get in the way of that.