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Please elaborate how sending hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine is in the interests of the average Trump voter.

by logicchains 2y ago

ceejayoz 2y ago
We don't actually really do that. The majority of the "funds" pay for products like shells and missiles made by American labor (which encompasses quite a few Trump voters!) in America with American parts and American steel and American know-how. We're donating no-longer-used Bradleys, F-16s, Javelins that are reaching (sometimes past!) their expiration date, etc. https://www.csis.org/analysis/what-ukraine-aid-package-and-what-does-it-mean-future-war https://www.csis.org/analysis/what-ukraine-aid-package-and-w... > The notion of “aid to Ukraine” is a misnomer. Despite images of “pallets of cash” being sent to Ukraine, about 72 percent of this money overall and 86 percent of the military aid will be spent in the United States. The reason for this high percentage is that weapons going to Ukraine are produced in U.S. factories, payments to U.S. service members are mostly spent in the United States, and even some piece of the humanitarian aid is spent in the United States. (As a bonus, we're getting to try out all our stuff against Russia's best, in a way we've never really gotten to. It's an incredible ad for American defense contractors.) If you'd told the old Cold Warriors that a small fraction of a single year's military budget could turn the Russian military into a shadow of its original, they would not have believed you.
sph 2y ago
Did you guys already forget 9/11 and invoking Article 5 of the NATO agreement for an issue on your soil? Please elaborate how starting a war in Afghanistan was in Europe's interests. In fact, it was the USA that had created Bin Laden in the first place. All I hear from MAGA is hypocrisy and revisionism.

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Please elaborate how sending hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine is in the interests of the average Trump voter.

by logicchains 2y ago

Please elaborate how sending hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine is in the interests of the average Trump voter.

ceejayoz 2y ago
We don't actually really do that. The majority of the "funds" pay for products like shells and missiles made by American labor (which encompasses quite a few Trump voters!) in America with American parts and American steel and American know-how. We're donating no-longer-used Bradleys, F-16s, Javelins that are reaching (sometimes past!) their expiration date, etc. https://www.csis.org/analysis/what-ukraine-aid-package-and-what-does-it-mean-future-war https://www.csis.org/analysis/what-ukraine-aid-package-and-w... > The notion of “aid to Ukraine” is a misnomer. Despite images of “pallets of cash” being sent to Ukraine, about 72 percent of this money overall and 86 percent of the military aid will be spent in the United States. The reason for this high percentage is that weapons going to Ukraine are produced in U.S. factories, payments to U.S. service members are mostly spent in the United States, and even some piece of the humanitarian aid is spent in the United States. (As a bonus, we're getting to try out all our stuff against Russia's best, in a way we've never really gotten to. It's an incredible ad for American defense contractors.) If you'd told the old Cold Warriors that a small fraction of a single year's military budget could turn the Russian military into a shadow of its original, they would not have believed you.
sph 2y ago
Did you guys already forget 9/11 and invoking Article 5 of the NATO agreement for an issue on your soil? Please elaborate how starting a war in Afghanistan was in Europe's interests. In fact, it was the USA that had created Bin Laden in the first place. All I hear from MAGA is hypocrisy and revisionism.