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Zelensky needs to step down for the sake of Ukraine and its people. He fails to grasp a critical reality: criticizing Trump is a mistake. Instead, he should fo

by tlogan 2y ago

Zelensky needs to step down for the sake of Ukraine and its people. He fails to grasp a critical reality: criticizing Trump is a mistake. Instead, he should focus on praising him—highlighting his intelligence, leadership, and appeal. More importantly, he must recognize that Ukraine’s survival depends on continued US support. Without the US, the country risks ceasing to exist.

pcj-github 2y ago
Zelensky is not responsible for this exchange. Are you honestly suggesting cower to a false autocrat? That is not leadership.
- beanjuiceII 2y ago
  you can't beg someone to come save you, then shit on them in the same conversation ...in what world would anyone expect a warm reception to that?
  - bashback 2y ago
    [flagged]
guax 2y ago
Thinking like this is what will take the US further into isolation. Everyone wants to engage and help a nice big brother. No one likes a bully, they will nod and agree when required but in the end America last is the main thing going on everyones mind right now. The mere unreliability of the government in keeping a narrative and position from one week to the next much less from one administration to the other is enough to alienate the allies. Count in annexation talks, tariff war as a negotiation gun. If having US help requires kissing the president ass instead of being an ally and sharing of the American ideals, the US as it pretended to be, does not exist anymore.
sirolimus 2y ago
Zelensky has said he will step down if US provides security guarantees. Source: https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/23/europe/ukraine-zelensky-resign-nato-intl/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/23/europe/ukraine-zelensky-resig...
- sirolimus 2y ago
  …security guarantees which the US does not want to give. So who’s at fault here?
  - sirolimus 2y ago
    The current situation reflects broader geopolitical tensions rather than simply one side being unwilling to compromise. Your framing of "who's at fault" oversimplifies a complex diplomatic negotiation. They have been at war for 3+ years, it benefits all countries that another future war does not happen again, not just for Ukraine. Besides Donald Trump is demanding 500 billion dollars in minerals from Ukraine for further support which is far more than their contribution so far of 120 billion dollars. Source: - https://www.ifw-kiel.de/publications/news/ukraine-support-after-3-years-of-war-aid-flows-remain-low-but-steady-shift-towards-weapons-procurement/ https://www.ifw-kiel.de/publications/news/ukraine-support-af...

by tlogan 2y ago

pcj-github 2y ago

Zelensky is not responsible for this exchange. Are you honestly suggesting cower to a false autocrat? That is not leadership.

beanjuiceII 2y ago
you can't beg someone to come save you, then shit on them in the same conversation ...in what world would anyone expect a warm reception to that?
- bashback 2y ago
  [flagged]

guax 2y ago

Thinking like this is what will take the US further into isolation. Everyone wants to engage and help a nice big brother. No one likes a bully, they will nod and agree when required but in the end America last is the main thing going on everyones mind right now. The mere unreliability of the government in keeping a narrative and position from one week to the next much less from one administration to the other is enough to alienate the allies. Count in annexation talks, tariff war as a negotiation gun. If having US help requires kissing the president ass instead of being an ally and sharing of the American ideals, the US as it pretended to be, does not exist anymore.

sirolimus 2y ago

Zelensky has said he will step down if US provides security guarantees. Source: https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/23/europe/ukraine-zelensky-resign-nato-intl/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/23/europe/ukraine-zelensky-resig...

sirolimus 2y ago
…security guarantees which the US does not want to give. So who’s at fault here?
- sirolimus 2y ago
  The current situation reflects broader geopolitical tensions rather than simply one side being unwilling to compromise. Your framing of "who's at fault" oversimplifies a complex diplomatic negotiation. They have been at war for 3+ years, it benefits all countries that another future war does not happen again, not just for Ukraine. Besides Donald Trump is demanding 500 billion dollars in minerals from Ukraine for further support which is far more than their contribution so far of 120 billion dollars. Source: - https://www.ifw-kiel.de/publications/news/ukraine-support-after-3-years-of-war-aid-flows-remain-low-but-steady-shift-towards-weapons-procurement/ https://www.ifw-kiel.de/publications/news/ukraine-support-af...