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What is most interesting is the presence of Vance and that he started the argument. Yesterday he was with Trump and the British PM and accused the UK of being

by sympil 2y ago

What is most interesting is the presence of Vance and that he started the argument. Yesterday he was with Trump and the British PM and accused the UK of being against free speech. I don’t recall VPs being active in such meetings before now. It says a lot that Vance is taking such a prominent role in areas that VPs traditionally do not publicly venture in.

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Jtsummers 2y ago
He needs to establish himself as a leader (this behavior doesn't help beyond maybe their base) if he wants to be president after Trump. It's also ingratiating behavior towards Trump which will help ensure he remains on his good side and part of the in-crowd.
- sympil 2y ago
  I get the sense that Vance and Musk are the ones really in control.
  - philk10 2y ago
    Steven Miller and Musk, not Vance
  - tailsdog 2y ago
    I think it's actually Thiel who is in control and pulling the strings here. He essentially got Vance into his current position and is obviously still linked to Musk.
- manmal 2y ago
  Isn’t Vance sponsored by Thiel and therefore here to stay?
  - Jtsummers 2y ago
    Maybe. Trump's temper can still get him sidelined. He needs to remain front and center to be a viable candidate in 2028. And nothing about Thiel or Musk suggest they'd throw money at him out of loyalty, they'd throw money at him if they thought he could win. Otherwise, they'd find another candidate.
duxup 2y ago
IMO the issue is that if they want to stage an argument, Trump on the campaign trail has often lost his train of thought. That would not look very "strong" so Vance is there to do the job.
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jakeogh 2y ago
(context) Vice President JD Vance Delivers Remarks at the Munich Security Conference: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCOsgfINdKg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCOsgfINdKg
tootie 2y ago
Marco Rubio was there with an expression like his soul had left his body.
belter 2y ago
'I don't really care what happens to Ukraine, one way or the other' - J. D. Vance - podcast interview 2022
castlefreak 2y ago
Cheney comes to mind.

by sympil 2y ago

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Jtsummers 2y ago

He needs to establish himself as a leader (this behavior doesn't help beyond maybe their base) if he wants to be president after Trump. It's also ingratiating behavior towards Trump which will help ensure he remains on his good side and part of the in-crowd.

sympil 2y ago
I get the sense that Vance and Musk are the ones really in control.
- philk10 2y ago
  Steven Miller and Musk, not Vance
- tailsdog 2y ago
  I think it's actually Thiel who is in control and pulling the strings here. He essentially got Vance into his current position and is obviously still linked to Musk.
manmal 2y ago
Isn’t Vance sponsored by Thiel and therefore here to stay?
- Jtsummers 2y ago
  Maybe. Trump's temper can still get him sidelined. He needs to remain front and center to be a viable candidate in 2028. And nothing about Thiel or Musk suggest they'd throw money at him out of loyalty, they'd throw money at him if they thought he could win. Otherwise, they'd find another candidate.

duxup 2y ago

IMO the issue is that if they want to stage an argument, Trump on the campaign trail has often lost his train of thought. That would not look very "strong" so Vance is there to do the job.

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jakeogh 2y ago

(context) Vice President JD Vance Delivers Remarks at the Munich Security Conference: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCOsgfINdKg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCOsgfINdKg

tootie 2y ago

Marco Rubio was there with an expression like his soul had left his body.

belter 2y ago

'I don't really care what happens to Ukraine, one way or the other' - J. D. Vance - podcast interview 2022

castlefreak 2y ago

Cheney comes to mind.