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Has there ever been a meeting that went this bad in front of journalists?
by mamonster 2y ago
Has there ever been a meeting that went this bad in front of journalists?
- Alifatisk 2y agoI don't think so
- duxup 2y agoNope, this is the first such "blow up" where folks at the white house berated a guest they invited there.
- kelseydh 2y agoThe only recent historical comparison I can think of -- and it's a weak one compared to today's meeting -- was when Obama firmly reiterated to Netanyahu his insistence on the 1967 lines as the basis for a two state solution, and Netanyahu in front of the cameras forcefully rejecting that to Obama's face: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l28xJitnP78 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l28xJitnP78
- redeux 2y agoInteresting as well since both Trump and Netanyahu are right wing authoritarians.
- rbanffy 2y agoThey used to have professionals managing such meetings.
- forum-soon-yuck 2y agoThey still do, and the fact that most of you don't see that this farce was scripted just proves that
- tgv 2y agoNo, this was shocking on multiple levels. What motivates the nominally most powerful person on the planet to behave like this?
- pjc50 2y agoPower. They're having the time of their lives.
- afavour 2y agoHe likes bullying people and it makes him feel good. People often attribute 5D chess strategies to Trump when base instincts are a far clearer explanation.
- racktash 2y agoIt was content for a segment of his base. On Twitter, it's common to find populist-right commentators say things like: 1. Supporting Ukraine against Russia is risking WW3 2. Zelensky is always asking for more, more more and is SO disrespectful to the generous United States. And he doesn't even show up in a suit when meeting the president. How disgraceful. etc. etc. These points were both touched upon by the Trump/Vance tag team and that's no coincidence. My respect for Zelensky, the only decent politician in that room. Ukraine is lucky to have him in a time like this.
- llm_trw 2y agoHe nearly got assassinated by the incompetence of the same people telling him to help Ukraine.
- cbg0 2y agoSecret Service is telling Trump to help Ukraine?
- GolfPopper 2y agoMy guess: dementia and psychopathy.
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- pjc50 2y agoIt went exactly the way the president wanted it to. Remember, this kind of bullying appeals to authoritarian parties.
- randcraw 2y agoMaybe, but Trump's base is actually tiny, only about 22% of the US voters. This will strongly alienate the other 78% of Americans, not to mention 100% of America's allies. And America's enemies now see how grossly inept he actually is at negotiation, revealing that only physical threats will register with him. NOT a good development for America. An insanely counterproductive ploy, but typical of Trump's 'gangsterism rules' philosophy of leadership.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoBut those 22% make an awful lot of noise and are aggressive in getting moderate Republicans to lose their seats.
- GolfPopper 2y ago>This will strongly alienate the other 78% of Americans It will strongly alienate the subsection of the other 78% of Americans who learn of it and care. I suspect that's nowhere near 100% of them, and I'd be shocked if it was over 30%
- bilbo0s 2y agoI'd be shocked if it was over 30% Wow! You think pretty highly of us!
- TiredOfLife 2y agoHe didn't get elected with 22%.
- jcutrell 2y agoSadly it will be praised as "tough" by many.
- pupppet 2y agoLook at the comments on FoxNews, it was America's finest hour.
- libertine 2y agoIsn't Trump giving access only to just a select group of journalists?
- timtimmy 2y agoIt's not beyond imagination that this will happen to the Canadian Prime Minister next.
- fads_go 2y agoI wonder what would happen if the Canadian Prime Minister then decided to file charges of treason against Musk, and issue an arrest warrant?
- dr_kiszonka 2y agoNothing good I am afraid.
- rpmisms 2y agoI don't think so. We just saw a closed-door meeting take place publicly. That's all.
- insane_dreamer 2y ago"That's all" is a major deal. There's a reason you never see that.
- rpmisms 2y agoYes, but I also think that making sausage in public has advantages. You have to admit that this is a very transparent negotiation.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoit's certainly interesting, I'll give you that
- LightBug1 2y agoEverything Trump touches ... dies.
- TechBro8615 2y agoNo, usually this is done behind closed doors and away from the press.