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The Texas Measles Outbreak Is Even Scarier Than It Looks

18 points by mitchbob 2y ago

toomuchtodo 2y ago
https://archive.today/Bmnds https://archive.today/Bmnds
duxup 2y ago
>That research, conducted over the past decade by the immunologist and medical doctor Michael Mina and others, revealed that measles destroys immune cells. Even people who recover from the virus lose much of their immune memory, and therefore the protection they had acquired from prior infections or vaccines to all the other childhood illnesses. This leaves survivors more vulnerable to many other diseases for years afterward. Worse, these victims may now face those childhood diseases, to which they lost immune protections, as older children, which puts them more at risk for complications. That is scary, the implication seems to be that a lot of other child deaths that we hadn't attributed to measles may in fact be related to measles when it was widespread, making measles dangerous than previously thought. Surviving alone might not mean you're out of the woods.
jqpabc123 2y ago
Measles is not really that bad --- just wait for a polio outbreak. Anti-vaxers are a danger not just to themselves but to others they have contact with. Religious voodoo is not an effective treatment or preventative --- proven over and over again all over the world. https://apnews.com/article/australia-manslaughter-diabetes-toowoomba-struhs-1454e2c866e816b2b22ba51df2d7de98 https://apnews.com/article/australia-manslaughter-diabetes-t...
- duxup 2y ago
  I think the article actually implies measles is potentially worse than previously thought due to it's impact on the immune system.
  - jqpabc123 2y ago
    Measles may affect your immune system --- polio can affect your ability to walk, talk, eat or go to the bathroom by yourself.
    - ceejayoz 2y ago
      Sure, but measles may make you unable to fight off polio. And all the other stuff. (Plus, it can paralyze/kill you, just like polio. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subacute_sclerosing_panencephalitis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subacute_sclerosing_panencepha...)
    - JKCalhoun 2y ago
      Not sure you're making your point. A compromised immune system could lead to ... fatality?
      - jqpabc123 2y ago
        A compromised immune system could lead to ... fatality? Or not. I had measles about 25 years ago. I was very sick but I lived to tell about it and without any obvious long term effects. Most who have polio are not nearly so lucky.
        ceejayoz 2y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highest_falls_survived_without_a_parachute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highest_falls_survived_without... "I turned out fine" is great. Plenty didn't. (We had a polio survivor as President, FDR, and very recently the Senate Majority Leader. People survive both. Both are preventable, dangerous diseases.)
sleepyguy 2y ago
Ontario is having an outbreak also. This seems to be spreading, and I'm unsure if it is only connected to the Mennonite community. Ontario has a large Mennonite community, and South Texas does, too. Ontario Measles Outbreak https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2025/02/27/canada-Ontario-measles-outbreak/4321740708228/ https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2025/02/27/canada-Ontario-me...

18 points by mitchbob 2y ago

https://archive.today/Bmnds https://archive.today/Bmnds

>That research, conducted over the past decade by the immunologist and medical doctor Michael Mina and others, revealed that measles destroys immune cells. Even people who recover from the virus lose much of their immune memory, and therefore the protection they had acquired from prior infections or vaccines to all the other childhood illnesses. This leaves survivors more vulnerable to many other diseases for years afterward. Worse, these victims may now face those childhood diseases, to which they lost immune protections, as older children, which puts them more at risk for complications. That is scary, the implication seems to be that a lot of other child deaths that we hadn't attributed to measles may in fact be related to measles when it was widespread, making measles dangerous than previously thought. Surviving alone might not mean you're out of the woods.

jqpabc123 2y ago

Measles is not really that bad --- just wait for a polio outbreak. Anti-vaxers are a danger not just to themselves but to others they have contact with. Religious voodoo is not an effective treatment or preventative --- proven over and over again all over the world. https://apnews.com/article/australia-manslaughter-diabetes-toowoomba-struhs-1454e2c866e816b2b22ba51df2d7de98 https://apnews.com/article/australia-manslaughter-diabetes-t...

duxup 2y ago
I think the article actually implies measles is potentially worse than previously thought due to it's impact on the immune system.
- jqpabc123 2y ago
  Measles may affect your immune system --- polio can affect your ability to walk, talk, eat or go to the bathroom by yourself.
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    Sure, but measles may make you unable to fight off polio. And all the other stuff. (Plus, it can paralyze/kill you, just like polio. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subacute_sclerosing_panencephalitis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subacute_sclerosing_panencepha...)
  - JKCalhoun 2y ago
    Not sure you're making your point. A compromised immune system could lead to ... fatality?
    - jqpabc123 2y ago
      A compromised immune system could lead to ... fatality? Or not. I had measles about 25 years ago. I was very sick but I lived to tell about it and without any obvious long term effects. Most who have polio are not nearly so lucky.
      - ceejayoz 2y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highest_falls_survived_without_a_parachute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highest_falls_survived_without... "I turned out fine" is great. Plenty didn't. (We had a polio survivor as President, FDR, and very recently the Senate Majority Leader. People survive both. Both are preventable, dangerous diseases.)

sleepyguy 2y ago

Ontario is having an outbreak also. This seems to be spreading, and I'm unsure if it is only connected to the Mennonite community. Ontario has a large Mennonite community, and South Texas does, too. Ontario Measles Outbreak https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2025/02/27/canada-Ontario-measles-outbreak/4321740708228/ https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2025/02/27/canada-Ontario-me...