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But how are these import taxes explained in a way that isn't completely obvious to hurt a lot of people and businesses within their country? I can't imagine be

by herbst 2y ago

But how are these import taxes explained in a way that isn't completely obvious to hurt a lot of people and businesses within their country? I can't imagine being this blind to their own future. There must be a huge effective propaganda machine twisting any logical thoughts or many sad people that lost any perception on reality.

palata 2y ago
> There must be a huge effective propaganda machine I believe that a lot of it is just "culture". Many (most?) Americans grow up being told that the US are the best country in the world, everybody wants to live there, "the american dream", "the land of the free", "the only democracy", etc. In most places in the world, people learn about the US at least through movies. Do Americans watch non-US movies? It feels like most Americans genuinely believe in this "meritocracy" bullshit, and on top of that they believe that they themselves are worth more than the average American. Obviously "meritocracy" is bullshit (Trump inherited, he did not build anything), and obviously most Americans cannot be better than most Americans. But this is not enough to break a whole cultural background leading to those beliefs. At least that's how I explain how they may have this completely skewed view of what "free speech" means, or why they truly believe that "government == always bad" or "regulations == always bad".
- herbst 2y ago
  It sounds so weird to me living in a social and actual democratic country where it just an obvious that our very high living standard is also in big parts thanks to the social system enabling everyone a good minimal standard. Basically putting oneself on the same level as everyone else no matter your paycheck for the general good. I really hope the best for the world and your country but I assume the worst right now.
  - palata 2y ago
    Don't get me wrong: I believe what is happening in the US is catastrophic.
cantrecallmypwd 2y ago
Cult Flavor Aid is a hell of a drug.

by herbst 2y ago

palata 2y ago

> There must be a huge effective propaganda machine I believe that a lot of it is just "culture". Many (most?) Americans grow up being told that the US are the best country in the world, everybody wants to live there, "the american dream", "the land of the free", "the only democracy", etc. In most places in the world, people learn about the US at least through movies. Do Americans watch non-US movies? It feels like most Americans genuinely believe in this "meritocracy" bullshit, and on top of that they believe that they themselves are worth more than the average American. Obviously "meritocracy" is bullshit (Trump inherited, he did not build anything), and obviously most Americans cannot be better than most Americans. But this is not enough to break a whole cultural background leading to those beliefs. At least that's how I explain how they may have this completely skewed view of what "free speech" means, or why they truly believe that "government == always bad" or "regulations == always bad".

herbst 2y ago
It sounds so weird to me living in a social and actual democratic country where it just an obvious that our very high living standard is also in big parts thanks to the social system enabling everyone a good minimal standard. Basically putting oneself on the same level as everyone else no matter your paycheck for the general good. I really hope the best for the world and your country but I assume the worst right now.
- palata 2y ago
  Don't get me wrong: I believe what is happening in the US is catastrophic.

cantrecallmypwd 2y ago

Cult Flavor Aid is a hell of a drug.