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Here's a FEN of the famous position from the Spassky-Fischer world championship match where Fischer weirdly played Bxh2 on move 29 and Spassky went on to win th

• verbify 2y ago
  My father-in-law told me he watched that game live when he was a kid, and he just gasped when Fischer played Bxh2. (This is before engines or eval bars). Spassky did well to convert, but this is more about Fischer's mistake than Spassky. This is the kind of blunder that you'd expect from a strong club player, not from Bobby Fischer. Although I understand that Fischer was brilliant but inconsistent, and to be fair, the last chess championship matches had a share of blunders.
  • alex1138 2y ago
    It's almost a certainty Fischer didn't just "not notice" the bishop would be trapped, he just miscalculated further down the line (in fact if you plug it into an engine, it shows an equal evaluation) It's one of the single biggest misconceptions ever, it gets repeated endlessly
    • bonzini 2y ago
      It still doesn't make any sense, even if he knew that the bishop was trapped. Black is the only side that can lose.
      • alex1138 2y ago
        Maybe, and you can argue it was a bad practical choice, but the way it usually gets DESCRIBED is basically "Fischer missed bishop get trap lol". It's really braindead
    • verbify 2y ago
      Interesting, I never knew that. Engine does give +0.6 to Spassky, so the move slightly made Fischer's position worse (https://lichess.org/study/Eyl4uwTZ/TUx5RZIk https://lichess.org/study/Eyl4uwTZ/TUx5RZIk) and the engine thinks f4 (on move 40) was the blunder. I'm not qualified to analyse this, I read into it a bit more and apparently he was trying to complicate the game, the 1973 tournament book only marks it as ?!.
      • mlyle 2y ago
        > the engine thinks f4 (on move 40) was the blunder. The engine knows what move would be a blunder for computer play. It doesn't know what move made the position impossibly tricky for a human to maintain for black. Every game that I analyze, there's possible moves where the computer will trade endless complexity for one's side for a couple centipawn advantage. These are moves that a human should not play.
        • DiogenesKynikos 2y ago
          It's difficult to convey why computer evaluations are not always a good measure for whether a move made by a human is good. I think the main point is that computers are so much better than humans at playing chess that what might be a reasonable move for them is effectively a terrible blunder for a human. It's like comparing a student driver with an F1 pro, and saying, "It's totally reasonable for the student driver to yank the wheel to the right when driving at 300 km/h, because an F1 driver would be able to recover from that." The point is that the student driver won't be able to follow up with near-superhuman ability to save the situation.
• EdwardCoffin 2y ago
  That game at chessgames.com: https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044722 https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044722
• jcalabro 2y ago
  Amazing game, thanks for sharing.
• buzzm 2y ago
  Game in BGN (https://moschetti.org/rants/bgnchess.html https://moschetti.org/rants/bgnchess.html) {"moves":[{"p":"P","f":"d2","t":"d4"},{"p":"n","f":"g8","t":"f6"},{"p":"P","f":"c2","t":"c4"},{"p":"p","f":"e7","t":"e6"},{"p":"N","f":"g1","t":"f3"},{"p":"p","f":"d7","t":"d5"},{"p":"N","f":"b1","t":"c3"},{"p":"b","f":"f8","t":"b4"},{"p":"P","f":"e2","t":"e3"},{"p":"k","f":"e8","t":"g8","castle":"K"},{"p":"B","f":"f1","t":"d3"},{"p":"p","f":"c7","t":"c5"},{"p":"K","f":"e1","t":"g1","castle":"K"},{"p":"n","f":"b8","t":"c6"},{"p":"P","f":"a2","t":"a3"},{"p":"b","f":"b4","t":"a5"},{"p":"N","f":"c3","t":"e2"},{"p":"p","f":"d5","t":"c4","x":"P"},{"p":"B","f":"d3","t":"c4","x":"p"},{"p":"b","f":"a5","t":"b6"},{"p":"P","f":"d4","t":"c5","x":"p"},{"p":"q","f":"d8","t":"d1","x":"Q"},{"p":"R","f":"f1","t":"d1","x":"q"},{"p":"b","f":"b6","t":"c5","x":"P"},{"p":"P","f":"b2","t":"b4"},{"p":"b","f":"c5","t":"e7"},{"p":"B","f":"c1","t":"b2"},{"p":"b","f":"c8","t":"d7"},{"p":"R","f":"a1","t":"c1"},{"p":"r","f":"f8","t":"d8"},{"p":"N","f":"e2","t":"d4"},{"p":"n","f":"c6","t":"d4","x":"N"},{"p":"N","f":"f3","t":"d4","x":"n"},{"p":"b","f":"d7","t":"a4"},{"p":"B","f":"c4","t":"b3"},{"p":"b","f":"a4","t":"b3","x":"B"},{"p":"N","f":"d4","t":"b3","x":"b"},{"p":"r","f":"d8","t":"d1","x":"R","c":1},{"p":"R","f":"c1","t":"d1","x":"r"},{"p":"r","f":"a8","t":"c8"},{"p":"K","f":"g1","t":"f1"},{"p":"k","f":"g8","t":"f8"},{"p":"K","f":"f1","t":"e2"},{"p":"n","f":"f6","t":"e4"},{"p":"R","f":"d1","t":"c1"},{"p":"r","f":"c8","t":"c1","x":"R"},{"p":"B","f":"b2","t":"c1","x":"r"},{"p":"p","f":"f7","t":"f6"},{"p":"N","f":"b3","t":"a5"},{"p":"n","f":"e4","t":"d6"},{"p":"K","f":"e2","t":"d3"},{"p":"b","f":"e7","t":"d8"},{"p":"N","f":"a5","t":"c4"},{"p":"b","f":"d8","t":"c7"},{"p":"N","f":"c4","t":"d6","x":"n"},{"p":"b","f":"c7","t":"d6","x":"N"},{"p":"P","f":"b4","t":"b5"},{"p":"b","f":"d6","t":"h2","x":"P"},{"p":"P","f":"g2","t":"g3"},{"p":"p","f":"h7","t":"h5"},{"p":"K","f":"d3","t":"e2"},{"p":"p","f":"h5","t":"h4"},{"p":"K","f":"e2","t":"f3"},{"p":"k","f":"f8","t":"e7"},{"p":"K","f":"f3","t":"g2"},{"p":"p","f":"h4","t":"g3","x":"P"},{"p":"P","f":"f2","t":"g3","x":"p"},{"p":"b","f":"h2","t":"g3","x":"P"},{"p":"K","f":"g2","t":"g3","x":"b"},{"p":"k","f":"e7","t":"d6"},{"p":"P","f":"a3","t":"a4"},{"p":"k","f":"d6","t":"d5"},{"p":"B","f":"c1","t":"a3"},{"p":"k","f":"d5","t":"e4"},{"p":"B","f":"a3","t":"c5"},{"p":"p","f":"a7","t":"a6"},{"p":"P","f":"b5","t":"b6"},{"p":"p","f":"f6","t":"f5"},{"p":"K","f":"g3","t":"h4"},{"p":"p","f":"f5","t":"f4"},{"p":"P","f":"e3","t":"f4","x":"p"},{"p":"k","f":"e4","t":"f4","x":"P"},{"p":"K","f":"h4","t":"h5"},{"p":"k","f":"f4","t":"f5"},{"p":"B","f":"c5","t":"e3"},{"p":"k","f":"f5","t":"e4"},{"p":"B","f":"e3","t":"f2"},{"p":"k","f":"e4","t":"f5"},{"p":"B","f":"f2","t":"h4"},{"p":"p","f":"e6","t":"e5"},{"p":"B","f":"h4","t":"g5"},{"p":"p","f":"e5","t":"e4"},{"p":"B","f":"g5","t":"e3"},{"p":"k","f":"f5","t":"f6"},{"p":"K","f":"h5","t":"g4"},{"p":"k","f":"f6","t":"e5"},{"p":"K","f":"g4","t":"g5"},{"p":"k","f":"e5","t":"d5"},{"p":"K","f":"g5","t":"f5"},{"p":"p","f":"a6","t":"a5"},{"p":"B","f":"e3","t":"f2"},{"p":"p","f":"g7","t":"g5"},{"p":"K","f":"f5","t":"g5","x":"p"},{"p":"k","f":"d5","t":"c4"},{"p":"K","f":"g5","t":"f5"},{"p":"k","f":"c4","t":"b4"},{"p":"K","f":"f5","t":"e4","x":"p"},{"p":"k","f":"b4","t":"a4","x":"P"},{"p":"K","f":"e4","t":"d5"},{"p":"k","f":"a4","t":"b5"},{"p":"K","f":"d5","t":"d6"}],"opening":{"ECO":"E56"},"site":"Reykjavik ISL","event":"Spassky-Fischer World Championship Match","result":"W","type":"C","players":[{"handle":{"domain":"UNK","value":"Boris Spassky"}},{"handle":{"domain":"UNK","value":"Robert James Fischer"}}]}
• martyvis 2y ago
  See the board here on Lichess https://lichess.org/study/facg4YUQ/jnXlZXWo https://lichess.org/study/facg4YUQ/jnXlZXWo