Looking through emails I think somewhere between 2007-2008. We built a Spotify pirate clone when they went legit, it died because we were not good at being 1337

Looking through emails I think somewhere between 2007-2008. We built a Spotify pirate clone when they went legit, it died because we were not good at being 1337/illegal, the cloud was not trusted, and most importantly Spotify was just easier (and legal).