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Firefox has been trash for the past 10 years, let alone the Mozilla Foundation. There are some idealistic people that still vouch for them, they're only making

Firefox has been trash for the past 10 years, let alone the Mozilla Foundation. There are some idealistic people that still vouch for them, they're only making a fool of themselves, lol.

tasty_freeze 2y ago
You are so right! I'm deleting Firefox right now and installing Chrome. I don't want anyone selling my data! /s
- moralestapia 2y ago
  Brave is the good one these days.
  - ParetoOptimal 2y ago
    For crypto bros and those that excuse Brendan Eich
    - porridgeraisin 2y ago
      > crypto One-time disable and completely not intrusive. No popups. Nothing. It's the equivalent of firefox's suggested sites on the homepage when you install it that you have to turn off. Do you hold that to the same standard? > Brendain Eich Art, artist, etc
      - grumbel 2y ago
        It's not even a "one-time disable", it's off by default until you enable it and the icon in the URL takes two clicks to hide. And more generally, lack of easy payment is at the root of so many problems with the modern Internet, that I really can't blame Brave for trying this, quite the opposite, that's exactly the kind of feature we need.
  - sph 2y ago
    I don't have a rabid hateboner like most of HN for Brave, but I refuse to help Google/Blink expand their monopoly on the web so I'll continue to put up with Mozilla and their silliness until a decent enough competitor appears. Which is unfortunate because WebKit is terrible outside of macOS, so every single alternative browser is built on Blink and thus indirectly giving more power to Google. The web is too important to accept a monoculture, and it saddens me to see that most of my peers have no moral fibre to resist against it. As much as I dislike Apple, thank god they have a billion devices out there with an alternative engine, though they still happily take the bribe to force Google down your throat.
  - NoGravitas 2y ago
    Brave is not, and has never been, the good one.
Zetaphor 2y ago
Firefox is the lesser of the evils. I hate what Mozilla is doing, but I also don't want to cede control of the web to Google. Vote with your feet. I'm hopeful for Ladybirds future.

Firefox has been trash for the past 10 years, let alone the Mozilla Foundation. There are some idealistic people that still vouch for them, they're only making a fool of themselves, lol.

tasty_freeze 2y ago

You are so right! I'm deleting Firefox right now and installing Chrome. I don't want anyone selling my data! /s

moralestapia 2y ago
Brave is the good one these days.
- ParetoOptimal 2y ago
  For crypto bros and those that excuse Brendan Eich
  - porridgeraisin 2y ago
    > crypto One-time disable and completely not intrusive. No popups. Nothing. It's the equivalent of firefox's suggested sites on the homepage when you install it that you have to turn off. Do you hold that to the same standard? > Brendain Eich Art, artist, etc
    - grumbel 2y ago
      It's not even a "one-time disable", it's off by default until you enable it and the icon in the URL takes two clicks to hide. And more generally, lack of easy payment is at the root of so many problems with the modern Internet, that I really can't blame Brave for trying this, quite the opposite, that's exactly the kind of feature we need.
- sph 2y ago
  I don't have a rabid hateboner like most of HN for Brave, but I refuse to help Google/Blink expand their monopoly on the web so I'll continue to put up with Mozilla and their silliness until a decent enough competitor appears. Which is unfortunate because WebKit is terrible outside of macOS, so every single alternative browser is built on Blink and thus indirectly giving more power to Google. The web is too important to accept a monoculture, and it saddens me to see that most of my peers have no moral fibre to resist against it. As much as I dislike Apple, thank god they have a billion devices out there with an alternative engine, though they still happily take the bribe to force Google down your throat.
- NoGravitas 2y ago
  Brave is not, and has never been, the good one.

Zetaphor 2y ago

Firefox is the lesser of the evils. I hate what Mozilla is doing, but I also don't want to cede control of the web to Google. Vote with your feet. I'm hopeful for Ladybirds future.