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Even if I agreed with the “block ads and then show our own” business model, which I don’t, I will never install a web browser, or any other application, that in

Even if I agreed with the “block ads and then show our own” business model, which I don’t, I will never install a web browser, or any other application, that includes a cryptocurrency wallet. Sadly, this also includes Signal at the moment, but I won’t be moved.

edoceo 2y ago
And remember when KeyBase added that crypto crap? Downhill then dead.
groundcontr01 2y ago
I'm not baiting or anything, just purely curious --why not? And what do you use as an alternative to Signal?
- ParetoOptimal 2y ago
  https://simplex.chat/ https://simplex.chat/
- LeoPanthera 2y ago
  I'm lucky enough that all the people I communicate with regularly use iPhones, so, I use iMessage.
somenameforme 2y ago
Brave's optional stuff is opt in. If you don't like seeing the little icon for the Brave Wallet you can right click it to hide it.
- LeoPanthera 2y ago
  "Yes it comes with awful stuff but you don't have to use it" is not an argument. There are plenty of alternatives without that awful stuff in the first place.
  - somenameforme 2y ago
    It's awful, in your opinion. Clearly plenty of people enjoy it, and it provides a simple means of monetization that's far more on the up-and-up than the typical alternative of - 'spy on users, profile them endlessly, secretly monetize them.' I also am unaware of any reasonable alternatives with similar functionality and compatibility. Single click access/tweaking of a native ad blocker, auto-https, script blocker/toggler, anti finger-printing, and much more is just awesome. And for better or for worse the Web is built to target Chrome and so Chromium based remains desirable, even if it is clearly becoming more onerous to decrappify it over time. It may eventually prove unsustainable, but we're not especially close to that point yet and at that point a fork would probably still be more desirable than a new root.

edoceo 2y ago

And remember when KeyBase added that crypto crap? Downhill then dead.

groundcontr01 2y ago

I'm not baiting or anything, just purely curious --why not? And what do you use as an alternative to Signal?

ParetoOptimal 2y ago
https://simplex.chat/ https://simplex.chat/
LeoPanthera 2y ago
I'm lucky enough that all the people I communicate with regularly use iPhones, so, I use iMessage.

somenameforme 2y ago

Brave's optional stuff is opt in. If you don't like seeing the little icon for the Brave Wallet you can right click it to hide it.

LeoPanthera 2y ago
"Yes it comes with awful stuff but you don't have to use it" is not an argument. There are plenty of alternatives without that awful stuff in the first place.
- somenameforme 2y ago
  It's awful, in your opinion. Clearly plenty of people enjoy it, and it provides a simple means of monetization that's far more on the up-and-up than the typical alternative of - 'spy on users, profile them endlessly, secretly monetize them.' I also am unaware of any reasonable alternatives with similar functionality and compatibility. Single click access/tweaking of a native ad blocker, auto-https, script blocker/toggler, anti finger-printing, and much more is just awesome. And for better or for worse the Web is built to target Chrome and so Chromium based remains desirable, even if it is clearly becoming more onerous to decrappify it over time. It may eventually prove unsustainable, but we're not especially close to that point yet and at that point a fork would probably still be more desirable than a new root.