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I still don't get it. Is Mozilla phoning home the fact that I pressed the button?

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chmod775 2y ago
Short answer: No. Long answer: Unless the button says "phone home my information to Mozilla", this license wouldn't cover that. This license only covers whatever is necessary to make the button itself work - whatever is necessary to realize the user's intent.
- inetknght 2y ago
  They didn't need a license to your data before. Why should they need it now?
  - ykonstant 2y ago
    Let me guess: chmod775 will not reply to this comment.
    - procaryote 2y ago
      It's an apt username for naively giving read access
    - chmod775 2y ago
      See my reply to you here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43205587 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43205587 Honestly I'm surprised that a research technician is more interested in this style of "argument" rather than figuring out the meaning of a (very precisely worded) sentence to for its own sake.
  - handoflixue 2y ago
    From the link that was already provided, and which is repeated in their Privacy FAQ: "Since we strive for transparency, and the LEGAL definition of “sale of data“ is extremely broad in some places, we’ve had to step back from making the definitive statements you know and love." That seems like a pretty reasonable justification to me
    - inetknght 2y ago
      Nope. It seems like legalspeak to say "we sell your data" while making it sound like they don't.
wongarsu 2y ago
That'd be a matter for the privacy policy. The section in question is whether they can then go ahead and publish a list of all the buttons you pressed. Which according to this license grant they can, but only if it "helps you navigate, experience, [or] interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox". What does that mean? I have no clue. It's a really strange restriction and I can't decide if that's wide open or so narrow that it is basically never met

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Short answer: No. Long answer: Unless the button says "phone home my information to Mozilla", this license wouldn't cover that. This license only covers whatever is necessary to make the button itself work - whatever is necessary to realize the user's intent.

inetknght 2y ago
They didn't need a license to your data before. Why should they need it now?
- ykonstant 2y ago
  Let me guess: chmod775 will not reply to this comment.
  - procaryote 2y ago
    It's an apt username for naively giving read access
  - chmod775 2y ago
    See my reply to you here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43205587 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43205587 Honestly I'm surprised that a research technician is more interested in this style of "argument" rather than figuring out the meaning of a (very precisely worded) sentence to for its own sake.
- handoflixue 2y ago
  From the link that was already provided, and which is repeated in their Privacy FAQ: "Since we strive for transparency, and the LEGAL definition of “sale of data“ is extremely broad in some places, we’ve had to step back from making the definitive statements you know and love." That seems like a pretty reasonable justification to me
  - inetknght 2y ago
    Nope. It seems like legalspeak to say "we sell your data" while making it sound like they don't.

wongarsu 2y ago

That'd be a matter for the privacy policy. The section in question is whether they can then go ahead and publish a list of all the buttons you pressed. Which according to this license grant they can, but only if it "helps you navigate, experience, [or] interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox". What does that mean? I have no clue. It's a really strange restriction and I can't decide if that's wide open or so narrow that it is basically never met