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> By 2028, it is projected that generative AI will lead to the creation of 1 billion new cloud-native applications. lmfao what the fuck? The source they refere

> By 2028, it is projected that generative AI will lead to the creation of 1 billion new cloud-native applications. lmfao what the fuck? The source they reference: https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=US51953724 https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=US51953724 These clowns want $2500 goddamned american dollars for the privilege of reading their bloviations on this topic, which i absolutely will not pay. You know it's bad when the only people making money on this crap are management consultants. Thinking back to 2014 using vagrant to develop services locally on my laptop I never would have imagined them getting swallowed up by big blue as some bizarre "AI" play. Shit is getting real weird around here.

yellow_lead 2y ago
Every time ChatGPT outputs a Dockerfile, it counts as a cloud native application, right? :)
- darkandbrooding 2y ago
  Did you intend to reference "It's a wonderful life?" When I read your comment I imagine a tiny child in Jimmy Stewart's arms, exclaiming the joys of capitalism ;-)
  - yellow_lead 2y ago
    No but that's a funny coincidence :)
lotharcable2 2y ago
This sort of thing is why nobody gives a shit about IBM anymore and they have to keep just buying relevant companies to stay relevant. Hopefully they do the right thing and hand hashicorp over to Redhat so they can open source the shit out of it. So they can do things like make OpenTofu the proper upstream for it, etc.
jaennaet 2y ago
Who the heck is IDC's customer base, exactly? $2,500 for that, or $7,500 for this one about – drumroll, please – feature flags! "Modern digital businesses need to be able to adapt to changing end-user demand, and since feature flags decouple release from deployment, it provides a good solution for improving software development velocity and business agility," said Jim Mercer, program vice president of IDC Software Development DevOps and DevSecOps. "Further, feature flags can help derisk releases, enable product experimentation, and allow for targeting and personalizing end-user experiences." https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=US52763824 https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=US52763824
- jcgrillo 2y ago
  I'm clearly in the wrong field.
  - ghaff 2y ago
    The analyst biz doesn't actually pay especially well--at least compared to big SV-based companies.
    - jcgrillo 2y ago
      Yeah but I could make this shit up in like.. 15-20min/mo vs working for a living like a normal human person. I'm just imagining the sheer number of vertical feet of skiing I'm missing out on and seeing red.
      - delulu 2y ago
        [flagged]
- homebrewer 2y ago
  Something I always respected in Americans is their talent for making money from absolutely nothing, providing zero or negative value in the process of doing so. Obviously doesn't apply to everyone, but you have more than a fair share of these people.
skissane 2y ago
> These clowns want $2500 goddamned american dollars for the privilege of reading their bloviations on this topic, which i absolutely will not pay. You aren’t the target market for their “bloviations” - they are targeted at executives, and it isn’t like the executive pays this out of their own pocket, there is a budget and it comes out of the budget. Plus these reports generally aren’t aimed at technical people with significant pre-existing understanding of the field, their audience is more “I’m expected to make decisions about this topic but they didn’t cover it in my MBA”, or even “I need some convincing-sounding talking points to put in my slides for the board meeting, and if I cite an outside analyst they can’t argue with that” Commonly with these reports a company buys a copy and then it can be freely shared within the company. Also $2,500 is likely just the list price and if you are a regular customer you’ll get a discount, or even find you’ve already paid for this report as part of some kind of subscription
- jcgrillo 2y ago
  Anyone prioritizing this nerfed, mindless dogshit over what their team is telling them and what's going on in the world around them is both an incompetent leader and a total idiot
  - skissane 2y ago
    A lot of the people paying for these analyst firm reports are sales people-so they can pass them on to their customers/prospects (to legally do that you often have to pay extra for “redistribution rights”)… and then the customer/prospect gets to read it for free Who might not have much of an engineering team, or not one with relevant expertise… and why should they trust the vendor’s engineering team? If they are about to sign a contract for $$$, being able to find support for it in an independent analyst report can psychologically help a lot in the sales cycle While the most useful reports for sales are those which directly compare products, like Gartner Magic Quadrant or Forrester Wave - a powerful tool if you come out on top - these kind of more background reports can help if the sales challenge is less “whose product should I buy?” and more “do I even need one of these products? should we be investing money in this?”
- airplaneears 2y ago

yellow_lead 2y ago

Every time ChatGPT outputs a Dockerfile, it counts as a cloud native application, right? :)

darkandbrooding 2y ago
Did you intend to reference "It's a wonderful life?" When I read your comment I imagine a tiny child in Jimmy Stewart's arms, exclaiming the joys of capitalism ;-)
- yellow_lead 2y ago
  No but that's a funny coincidence :)

lotharcable2 2y ago

This sort of thing is why nobody gives a shit about IBM anymore and they have to keep just buying relevant companies to stay relevant. Hopefully they do the right thing and hand hashicorp over to Redhat so they can open source the shit out of it. So they can do things like make OpenTofu the proper upstream for it, etc.

jaennaet 2y ago

Who the heck is IDC's customer base, exactly? $2,500 for that, or $7,500 for this one about – drumroll, please – feature flags! "Modern digital businesses need to be able to adapt to changing end-user demand, and since feature flags decouple release from deployment, it provides a good solution for improving software development velocity and business agility," said Jim Mercer, program vice president of IDC Software Development DevOps and DevSecOps. "Further, feature flags can help derisk releases, enable product experimentation, and allow for targeting and personalizing end-user experiences." https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=US52763824 https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=US52763824

jcgrillo 2y ago
I'm clearly in the wrong field.
- ghaff 2y ago
  The analyst biz doesn't actually pay especially well--at least compared to big SV-based companies.
  - jcgrillo 2y ago
    Yeah but I could make this shit up in like.. 15-20min/mo vs working for a living like a normal human person. I'm just imagining the sheer number of vertical feet of skiing I'm missing out on and seeing red.
    - delulu 2y ago
      [flagged]
homebrewer 2y ago
Something I always respected in Americans is their talent for making money from absolutely nothing, providing zero or negative value in the process of doing so. Obviously doesn't apply to everyone, but you have more than a fair share of these people.

skissane 2y ago

> These clowns want $2500 goddamned american dollars for the privilege of reading their bloviations on this topic, which i absolutely will not pay. You aren’t the target market for their “bloviations” - they are targeted at executives, and it isn’t like the executive pays this out of their own pocket, there is a budget and it comes out of the budget. Plus these reports generally aren’t aimed at technical people with significant pre-existing understanding of the field, their audience is more “I’m expected to make decisions about this topic but they didn’t cover it in my MBA”, or even “I need some convincing-sounding talking points to put in my slides for the board meeting, and if I cite an outside analyst they can’t argue with that” Commonly with these reports a company buys a copy and then it can be freely shared within the company. Also $2,500 is likely just the list price and if you are a regular customer you’ll get a discount, or even find you’ve already paid for this report as part of some kind of subscription

jcgrillo 2y ago
Anyone prioritizing this nerfed, mindless dogshit over what their team is telling them and what's going on in the world around them is both an incompetent leader and a total idiot
- skissane 2y ago
  A lot of the people paying for these analyst firm reports are sales people-so they can pass them on to their customers/prospects (to legally do that you often have to pay extra for “redistribution rights”)… and then the customer/prospect gets to read it for free Who might not have much of an engineering team, or not one with relevant expertise… and why should they trust the vendor’s engineering team? If they are about to sign a contract for $$$, being able to find support for it in an independent analyst report can psychologically help a lot in the sales cycle While the most useful reports for sales are those which directly compare products, like Gartner Magic Quadrant or Forrester Wave - a powerful tool if you come out on top - these kind of more background reports can help if the sales challenge is less “whose product should I buy?” and more “do I even need one of these products? should we be investing money in this?”
airplaneears 2y ago