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> Elon Musk shared a post on his social network stating that Slim could have ties to criminal groups, and five minutes later, Carlos Slim canceled all business

> Elon Musk shared a post on his social network stating that Slim could have ties to criminal groups, and five minutes later, Carlos Slim canceled all business collaborations with Starlink in Latin America, which made Musk lose 7 billion US dollars. Is there a source for this?

duskwuff 2y ago
> Is there a source for this? For the claim that Slim had criminal ties? No, not really. The immediate source was this tweet, which asserted, without any clear basis, that Slim has "significant ties to the drug cartels in Mexico": https://x.com/wallstreetmav/status/1882255277551972619 https://x.com/wallstreetmav/status/1882255277551972619 The linked NYT article in the reply-to was https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/22/world/americas/mexico-cartel-terrorists-trade.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/22/world/americas/mexico-car... (archived: https://archive.ph/6Sn0Y https://archive.ph/6Sn0Y), which doesn't mention Slim at all.
- croddin 2y ago
  Here is Elon's quote of that tweet with the monocle emoji https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1882301283090190520 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1882301283090190520
- imgabe 2y ago
  Do you think anyone does serious business in Mexico and doesn't run into the cartels?
  - sirbutters 2y ago
    I get some animal farm vibe reading this. I'm looking at the US gov and I'm looking a the cartels, and I can't figure out which one is which. The way this US gov is operating, they pretty much operate likes cartels "we are the boss, you stfu and you do as we say, or else".
  - Braxton1980 2y ago
    American car companies?
  - foogazi 2y ago
    Lol, what do you guys think the cartels are ?
- emmelaich 2y ago
  Probably not possible to be the richest person in Mexico without some incidental connection or accidental involvement with organised crime. So it really hardly matters, unless you get a lot of details.
  - duskwuff 2y ago
    I don't doubt that's often the case, but there's still a big difference between a general statement and a specific claim.
  - deleted 2y ago
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  - foogazi 2y ago
    > Probably not possible to be the richest person in Mexico without some incidental connection or accidental involvement with organised crime. Honestly this sounds like a cartoonish understanding of a country Can you say the same about the US ? Where does Elon get his psychodelics ? Did Silk Road use AWS ?
- dgjakend 2y ago
  I haven’t seen any clear connection. maybe it links to this article that is claiming it’s bad to represent cartels as terror orgs as some loose indicator it is slim trying to push that narrative to benefit the cartels since I did see he owned 17% share in NYT?
pier25 2y ago
The cancellation of business with Starlink was announced in the Mexican media weeks ago. See this article in Spanish: https://expansion.mx/tecnologia/2025/02/26/america-movil-corta-lazos-con-spacex https://expansion.mx/tecnologia/2025/02/26/america-movil-cor...
- kaiwen1 2y ago
  That article is dated 26 Feb 2025, not weeks ago.
  - pier25 2y ago
    From the article: > "It is better to put our towers, plants and optical fiber to link them," said the business magnate in his press conference held on February 10. > Two days later, Daniel Hajj, CEO of América Móvil, confirmed the decision in a conference call with analysts, where he announced an investment of 22 billion dollars over the next three years to expand its infrastructure. With this move, the possibility of a collaboration with SpaceX was ruled out.
doodlebugging 2y ago
It's like mush lives in a glass house and just hangs out online all day chunking rocks. I don't know Carlos Slim so maybe this is or maybe it isn't the pot calling the kettle black. Unless someone has evidence that can paint Carlos Slim with the same brush as the one mush uses on himself then I tend to believe that Slim's friends are a lot less shady than mush's.

duskwuff 2y ago

> Is there a source for this? For the claim that Slim had criminal ties? No, not really. The immediate source was this tweet, which asserted, without any clear basis, that Slim has "significant ties to the drug cartels in Mexico": https://x.com/wallstreetmav/status/1882255277551972619 https://x.com/wallstreetmav/status/1882255277551972619 The linked NYT article in the reply-to was https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/22/world/americas/mexico-cartel-terrorists-trade.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/22/world/americas/mexico-car... (archived: https://archive.ph/6Sn0Y https://archive.ph/6Sn0Y), which doesn't mention Slim at all.

croddin 2y ago
Here is Elon's quote of that tweet with the monocle emoji https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1882301283090190520 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1882301283090190520
imgabe 2y ago
Do you think anyone does serious business in Mexico and doesn't run into the cartels?
- sirbutters 2y ago
  I get some animal farm vibe reading this. I'm looking at the US gov and I'm looking a the cartels, and I can't figure out which one is which. The way this US gov is operating, they pretty much operate likes cartels "we are the boss, you stfu and you do as we say, or else".
- Braxton1980 2y ago
  American car companies?
- foogazi 2y ago
  Lol, what do you guys think the cartels are ?
emmelaich 2y ago
Probably not possible to be the richest person in Mexico without some incidental connection or accidental involvement with organised crime. So it really hardly matters, unless you get a lot of details.
- duskwuff 2y ago
  I don't doubt that's often the case, but there's still a big difference between a general statement and a specific claim.
- deleted 2y ago
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- foogazi 2y ago
  > Probably not possible to be the richest person in Mexico without some incidental connection or accidental involvement with organised crime. Honestly this sounds like a cartoonish understanding of a country Can you say the same about the US ? Where does Elon get his psychodelics ? Did Silk Road use AWS ?
dgjakend 2y ago
I haven’t seen any clear connection. maybe it links to this article that is claiming it’s bad to represent cartels as terror orgs as some loose indicator it is slim trying to push that narrative to benefit the cartels since I did see he owned 17% share in NYT?

pier25 2y ago

The cancellation of business with Starlink was announced in the Mexican media weeks ago. See this article in Spanish: https://expansion.mx/tecnologia/2025/02/26/america-movil-corta-lazos-con-spacex https://expansion.mx/tecnologia/2025/02/26/america-movil-cor...

kaiwen1 2y ago
That article is dated 26 Feb 2025, not weeks ago.
- pier25 2y ago
  From the article: > "It is better to put our towers, plants and optical fiber to link them," said the business magnate in his press conference held on February 10. > Two days later, Daniel Hajj, CEO of América Móvil, confirmed the decision in a conference call with analysts, where he announced an investment of 22 billion dollars over the next three years to expand its infrastructure. With this move, the possibility of a collaboration with SpaceX was ruled out.

doodlebugging 2y ago

It's like mush lives in a glass house and just hangs out online all day chunking rocks. I don't know Carlos Slim so maybe this is or maybe it isn't the pot calling the kettle black. Unless someone has evidence that can paint Carlos Slim with the same brush as the one mush uses on himself then I tend to believe that Slim's friends are a lot less shady than mush's.