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A whole bunch of farmers in predominantly red states, many of them trump voters, are totally fucked this year because their crops were going to USAID. It's not

A whole bunch of farmers in predominantly red states, many of them trump voters, are totally fucked this year because their crops were going to USAID. It's not about "efficiency" or "the economy", it's about wrecking shit so bad the tech oligarchs can seize power. They're trying to make curtis yarvin's insane bullshit real.

alabastervlog 2y ago
> They're trying to make curtis yarvin's insane bullshit real. There's a non-zero chance this is exactly what's going on, at least for an influential faction in the administration (there seem to be... a few factions, at least for now). Vance has alluded to Yarvin a couple times in interviews, and AFAIK Thiel's outright said he likes Yarvin's ideas. Not sure how Musk feels about the guy. A decent news media would have hammered anyone connected to the campaign over that kind of thing, any time they got a chance. We don't have that, though.
ModernMech 2y ago
> their crops were going to USAID. That's the funniest thing about all of this. Bunch of red state farmers expected something in return for their vote. Can't just pay them directly, so instead their representatives pay them by sticking some pork in a bill that says USAID will pay farmers to grow soybeans. Same effect. But now some koolaid drinker comes in, notices some money being sent to feed third world poor people, calls it woke nonsense and shuts it down. But who does this end up hurting directly but the very people who voted for this to happen! They grew a bunch of beans the government doesn't want to pay for anymore, and they're out of luck. I guess you can call this waste, or even abuse, but definitely not woke.
- watersb 2y ago
  USAID purchases have been a significant stabilizer of domestic food market prices.
  - ModernMech 2y ago
    Yeah it works out well for everyone. But it's telling that DOGE frames it as "foreign aid" and therefore waste, when there are those other benefits.
    - jcgrillo 2y ago
      It's.. dystopian. In true sense where the only viable resolution is death and mayhem. Fuck around and find out.
      - krapp 2y ago
        Unfortunately they're the ones fucking around and we're the ones who get to find out.
        jcgrillo 2y ago
        Yeah that definitely eats away at the poetic justice of it
LastTrain 2y ago
Oh they will carve out exceptions for them. And rural post offices (the MAILS act), and rural schools (Secure Rural Schools Reauthorization Act). Democratic doormats will jump in an help Republicans shield their constituencies from the pain they are inflicting because preserving rural post offices is the right thing to do right? What I'm saying is, those farmers will be fine.

alabastervlog 2y ago

> They're trying to make curtis yarvin's insane bullshit real. There's a non-zero chance this is exactly what's going on, at least for an influential faction in the administration (there seem to be... a few factions, at least for now). Vance has alluded to Yarvin a couple times in interviews, and AFAIK Thiel's outright said he likes Yarvin's ideas. Not sure how Musk feels about the guy. A decent news media would have hammered anyone connected to the campaign over that kind of thing, any time they got a chance. We don't have that, though.

ModernMech 2y ago

> their crops were going to USAID. That's the funniest thing about all of this. Bunch of red state farmers expected something in return for their vote. Can't just pay them directly, so instead their representatives pay them by sticking some pork in a bill that says USAID will pay farmers to grow soybeans. Same effect. But now some koolaid drinker comes in, notices some money being sent to feed third world poor people, calls it woke nonsense and shuts it down. But who does this end up hurting directly but the very people who voted for this to happen! They grew a bunch of beans the government doesn't want to pay for anymore, and they're out of luck. I guess you can call this waste, or even abuse, but definitely not woke.

watersb 2y ago
USAID purchases have been a significant stabilizer of domestic food market prices.
- ModernMech 2y ago
  Yeah it works out well for everyone. But it's telling that DOGE frames it as "foreign aid" and therefore waste, when there are those other benefits.
  - jcgrillo 2y ago
    It's.. dystopian. In true sense where the only viable resolution is death and mayhem. Fuck around and find out.
    - krapp 2y ago
      Unfortunately they're the ones fucking around and we're the ones who get to find out.
      - jcgrillo 2y ago
        Yeah that definitely eats away at the poetic justice of it

LastTrain 2y ago

Oh they will carve out exceptions for them. And rural post offices (the MAILS act), and rural schools (Secure Rural Schools Reauthorization Act). Democratic doormats will jump in an help Republicans shield their constituencies from the pain they are inflicting because preserving rural post offices is the right thing to do right? What I'm saying is, those farmers will be fine.