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ADHD Guide to Spaced Repetition

29 points by lakesare 2y ago

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graypegg 2y ago
> Make cards nice to look at > Stop immediately if you're bored or annoyed This is a dangerous combo, and entirely the reason I flounder at any task that ONLY helps if done fully, and on a regular basis. I can spend days obsessing about the cards, or the organization and automation I can add. My interest will disappear the second that stops being interesting, way before I get ANY value from spaced repetition. The best thing (for me) is a predefined rigid system. It looks like what it looks like with 0 options. I should have no choice but to start using it if I decide I should use it. The initial excitement should be redirected into just starting on the valuable stuff as soon as possible, so that there's at least a small chance I stick with it just long enough to install something in my brain. IMO embrace the short term wins if that's all you can promise you have the interest for.
conradludgate 2y ago
What do people use spaced repetition to learn? I don't have much use for facts in my day to day life. I know language learning is likely a good candidate, but I'm not particularly interested in that. I was recently diagnosed with ADHD so I'm trying to re-evaluate things I skipped on in the past. Anki was one of those things where I just couldn't get what it is useful for
- graypegg 2y ago
  IMO, learning a language was way better suited to impulsive excitement. (Of which ADHD folk tend to be experts in) I moved provinces to make that work (Ontario Canada => Québec Canada), honestly in a pretty stupid move. But now it's not just a thing I need to convince myself to do, it's an imperative that people are cheering you on for. The rush I got from doing my first fully French bureaucratic phone call is unmatched. If that call was going to be in English I would've delayed doing it for months. Embrace a bit of chaos if you can afford it and your brain sort of craves it. (Applies outside the realm of language learning as well, whatever deep-end you can afford to drown in a few times, drown as fast as possible in it. You'll learn to swim after the third or forth time.)
  - conradludgate 2y ago
    I have enough impulsivity in my life. Paired with some baseline amount of anxiety I end up getting pretty stressed as is. Moving far away is the last thing I could ever imagine doing right now.
    - graypegg 2y ago
      Totally fair, but that's only the "deep end" for language learning right? If you wanted to learn a specific programming language for example, build something as fast as possible, tell people about it, and expect to fail. Most people will cheer you on, and everything you learn will be punctuated by random bursts of "wow, I got that working!". If it goes south (which it probably will) you were already mentally prepared for that. (A bit of self-deprecation humour helps there.) And people will STILL cheer you on. "Wow, you're a beginner, and just jumped in?"
  - Rendello 2y ago
    I'm also an anglophone from Ontario who learned French impulsively. I think if I'd studied things like grammar, vocabulary, and conjugation, I would've advanced from the B2 plateau easily, but when I was motivated to learn French, I wasn't sure sure how to study those things.
    - graypegg 2y ago
      I guess the opposite side of that hypothetical would be "would I have been as excited about learning french long enough to reach my current level of comprehension if I was going to traditional classes." Personally, I don't think I would've been. I mess up on some conjugate forms, and I have a bad tendency of skipping words that leave me in an unfinishable sentence ("J'en ai un" => "J'ai un... euh de... ça") but the past year, I don't think anyone has visibly struggled to understand me. Friends are a great help in figuring this stuff out. It's not that I don't think a traditional language education is good, it would just spend my excitement budget way too quickly. If you CAN find motivation to be in a classroom, that is BY FAR the fastest way to be a clear and fluent speaker in any language.
- OnionBlender 2y ago
  I was doing it to remember facts related to Graphics programming to prepare for a graphics programmer interview. Every graphics interview I've done has asked me to explain to pipeline in detail, along with various linear algebra facts and formulas. Also various optimization and hardware terms. Normally I would just look this stuff up, but for some reason people ask me things like, write a rotation matrix.

29 points by lakesare 2y ago

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graypegg 2y ago

> Make cards nice to look at > Stop immediately if you're bored or annoyed This is a dangerous combo, and entirely the reason I flounder at any task that ONLY helps if done fully, and on a regular basis. I can spend days obsessing about the cards, or the organization and automation I can add. My interest will disappear the second that stops being interesting, way before I get ANY value from spaced repetition. The best thing (for me) is a predefined rigid system. It looks like what it looks like with 0 options. I should have no choice but to start using it if I decide I should use it. The initial excitement should be redirected into just starting on the valuable stuff as soon as possible, so that there's at least a small chance I stick with it just long enough to install something in my brain. IMO embrace the short term wins if that's all you can promise you have the interest for.

conradludgate 2y ago

What do people use spaced repetition to learn? I don't have much use for facts in my day to day life. I know language learning is likely a good candidate, but I'm not particularly interested in that. I was recently diagnosed with ADHD so I'm trying to re-evaluate things I skipped on in the past. Anki was one of those things where I just couldn't get what it is useful for

graypegg 2y ago
IMO, learning a language was way better suited to impulsive excitement. (Of which ADHD folk tend to be experts in) I moved provinces to make that work (Ontario Canada => Québec Canada), honestly in a pretty stupid move. But now it's not just a thing I need to convince myself to do, it's an imperative that people are cheering you on for. The rush I got from doing my first fully French bureaucratic phone call is unmatched. If that call was going to be in English I would've delayed doing it for months. Embrace a bit of chaos if you can afford it and your brain sort of craves it. (Applies outside the realm of language learning as well, whatever deep-end you can afford to drown in a few times, drown as fast as possible in it. You'll learn to swim after the third or forth time.)
- conradludgate 2y ago
  I have enough impulsivity in my life. Paired with some baseline amount of anxiety I end up getting pretty stressed as is. Moving far away is the last thing I could ever imagine doing right now.
  - graypegg 2y ago
    Totally fair, but that's only the "deep end" for language learning right? If you wanted to learn a specific programming language for example, build something as fast as possible, tell people about it, and expect to fail. Most people will cheer you on, and everything you learn will be punctuated by random bursts of "wow, I got that working!". If it goes south (which it probably will) you were already mentally prepared for that. (A bit of self-deprecation humour helps there.) And people will STILL cheer you on. "Wow, you're a beginner, and just jumped in?"
- Rendello 2y ago
  I'm also an anglophone from Ontario who learned French impulsively. I think if I'd studied things like grammar, vocabulary, and conjugation, I would've advanced from the B2 plateau easily, but when I was motivated to learn French, I wasn't sure sure how to study those things.
  - graypegg 2y ago
    I guess the opposite side of that hypothetical would be "would I have been as excited about learning french long enough to reach my current level of comprehension if I was going to traditional classes." Personally, I don't think I would've been. I mess up on some conjugate forms, and I have a bad tendency of skipping words that leave me in an unfinishable sentence ("J'en ai un" => "J'ai un... euh de... ça") but the past year, I don't think anyone has visibly struggled to understand me. Friends are a great help in figuring this stuff out. It's not that I don't think a traditional language education is good, it would just spend my excitement budget way too quickly. If you CAN find motivation to be in a classroom, that is BY FAR the fastest way to be a clear and fluent speaker in any language.
OnionBlender 2y ago
I was doing it to remember facts related to Graphics programming to prepare for a graphics programmer interview. Every graphics interview I've done has asked me to explain to pipeline in detail, along with various linear algebra facts and formulas. Also various optimization and hardware terms. Normally I would just look this stuff up, but for some reason people ask me things like, write a rotation matrix.