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Him, his wife and his dog found dead in the house ? Carbon Monoxide, possibly? Shame. I had no idea the guy was that old.

by LandR 2y ago

world2vec 2y ago
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- ihattendorf 2y ago
  > according to the statement, which said that foul play was not suspected. From the 2nd paragraph of the article.
  - deleted 2y ago
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- dnpls 2y ago
  What kind of psychopath commits murder-suicide and also kills their own dog??
  - shortrounddev2 2y ago
    Hitler
    - shiroiushi 2y ago
      Hitler loved dogs. And they loved him. Remember that next time someone says that dogs can tell which people are good and bad.
- wing-_-nuts 2y ago
  They just got through saying that foul play was not suspected. It'd be nice if you could not slander the dead.
  - Nicksil 2y ago
    >They just got through saying that foul play was not suspected. It'd be nice if you could not slander the dead. >not suspected lol, It's all speculation. No one knows anything at this point. Have there been cases in the past where the police initially announce no foul play was suspected and then have it turn out to be that foul play was indeed involved? We can imagine so. And there is no slander here. None. So what on Earth are you even talking about?
water-data-dude 2y ago
Friendly reminder that “most CO detectors use a sensor with a defined, limited lifespan, and will not work indefinitely.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_detector https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_detector
- bragr 2y ago
  TIL Time to visit the hardware store
- jihadjihad 2y ago
  True. Newer ones will last ~10 years, and will shout an EOL warning when they near the end of their life. I've got hardwired combo smoke and CO detectors (AA battery backup) from Kidde at the house and they have this feature. The nice part of having them hardwired is that the house is now like an office/other building: if one trips, they all trip, so the whole house is alerted. The newer ones have far fewer false alarms, too (pizza in the oven I am looking at you...).
  - orra 2y ago
    Hardwiring is good, but if retrofitting, you don't need to do it. Some of the 10 year battery powered units can wirelessly link (and thankfully not over something inconsistent like WiFi or Bluetooth).
  - hinkley 2y ago
    Battery powered units are literal lifesavers during a blackout, particularly in winter.
    - genewitch 2y ago
      My house has hard wired smoke detectors and they all have batteries and all get to chirping on their schedule every 3 years or so. I'd be willing to bet the NEC says "must be able to perform without mains power" for any hard wired setup.
shkkmo 2y ago
That was my first thought too, but only 1 of their 3 dogs was found dead
crystal_revenge 2y ago
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- rob74 2y ago
  Ok, at 95 that would maybe be understandable, but his wife was considerably younger (63). And what about the dog?
  - matthewdgreen 2y ago
    And they were found in different rooms. Hackman apparently in a mudroom, and the wife in the bathroom.
- kylecazar 2y ago
  Mine too, but the dog was found dead in its kennel. I'm no detective but most decent dog owners wouldn't do that if it was a planned thing.
  - harshreality 2y ago
    Depends, they (or she) could've medicated it to death. Assuming suicide was involved, if they had certain spiritual beliefs about life after death, they might have had an idea of the dog coming with them.
- 1ncunabula 2y ago
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echelon_musk 2y ago
> The local gas provider, the New Mexico Gas Co, was involved in the investigation alongside the Santa Fe county sheriff’s department, Associated Press reported, raising speculation that carbon monoxide poisoning lay behind the deaths https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/feb/27/gene-hackman-cause-of-death-investigation https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/feb/27/gene-hackman-ca...
canucker2016 2y ago
Not when responders arrived according to this article, https://abcnews.go.com/US/actor-gene-hackman-wife-found-dead-home-sheriff/story?id=119242578 https://abcnews.go.com/US/actor-gene-hackman-wife-found-dead... The Academy Award-winning actor was found on the floor in the mud room, according to the search warrant. It appeared he fell suddenly, and he and his wife "showed obvious signs of death," the document said. Arakawa was found lying on her side on the floor in a bathroom, with a space heater near her body, according to the search warrant. Her body showed signs of decomposition, the document said. There was mummification to her hands and feet, the document said. A German shepherd was found dead about 10 to 15 feet from Arakawa, the document said. But two other dogs were found alive. One healthy dog was near Arakawa and the other was located outside, according to the search warrant. The Santa Fe City Fire Department found no signs of a possible carbon monoxide leak or poisoning, the document said. If there was carbon monoxide at the scene, it could have vented out of the home through the open front door before responders arrived. New Mexico Gas Company also responded and "as of now, there are no signs or evidence indicating there were any problems associated to the pipes in and around the residence," the document said.
- ninetyninenine 2y ago
  Very unlikely for two people to die like that at the same time without some common factor. Add a dog and the probability becomes even crazier. The evidence doesn't show any foul play but the probabilities and unlikelihoods do.
  - sparky_z 2y ago
    Keep in mind, he was 95 and was forced into retirement by health issues over 20 years ago. If your base rate is based on two healthy people in their prime, that's a little different. It could be as simple as he found her dead or dying, tried to get help and had a heart attack from the stress or simply just fell. Reports are they weren't found for two weeks, which sadly could explain the dog. Tragic situation all around, but I'm not ready to use a probability based argument to insist on foul play.
tiahura 2y ago
Like Weird Al’s folks and those poor people at the Bahama’s Sandals.
hinkley 2y ago
The article I read said no gas leak or CO was found. However I don't believe that one person being found dead near an open door is evidence of no gases. I would take it as the opposite. Something happens, one of them almost makes it out but either blacks out at the open door before getting fresh air or, like in the CO case, once exposed the damage is done. That said, the bigger curiosity is one dead dog and two small, live ones. If you have people poisoned by food, and one animal with food anxiety, that's a recipe for one dead dog and multiple dead people and other household animals wondering what the hell just happened. If you have people and animals poisoned by a gas... Unless it was lighter than air it should have affected the small dogs as well, unless they were napping somewhere outside of the immediate danger. (The GSD could also have died from eating the prescription pills on the ground and it's only a coincidental death rather than common cause)

Him, his wife and his dog found dead in the house ? Carbon Monoxide, possibly? Shame. I had no idea the guy was that old.

by LandR 2y ago

Him, his wife and his dog found dead in the house ? Carbon Monoxide, possibly? Shame. I had no idea the guy was that old.

world2vec 2y ago

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ihattendorf 2y ago
> according to the statement, which said that foul play was not suspected. From the 2nd paragraph of the article.
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
dnpls 2y ago
What kind of psychopath commits murder-suicide and also kills their own dog??
- shortrounddev2 2y ago
  Hitler
  - shiroiushi 2y ago
    Hitler loved dogs. And they loved him. Remember that next time someone says that dogs can tell which people are good and bad.
wing-_-nuts 2y ago
They just got through saying that foul play was not suspected. It'd be nice if you could not slander the dead.
- Nicksil 2y ago
  >They just got through saying that foul play was not suspected. It'd be nice if you could not slander the dead. >not suspected lol, It's all speculation. No one knows anything at this point. Have there been cases in the past where the police initially announce no foul play was suspected and then have it turn out to be that foul play was indeed involved? We can imagine so. And there is no slander here. None. So what on Earth are you even talking about?

water-data-dude 2y ago

Friendly reminder that “most CO detectors use a sensor with a defined, limited lifespan, and will not work indefinitely.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_detector https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_detector

bragr 2y ago
TIL Time to visit the hardware store
jihadjihad 2y ago
True. Newer ones will last ~10 years, and will shout an EOL warning when they near the end of their life. I've got hardwired combo smoke and CO detectors (AA battery backup) from Kidde at the house and they have this feature. The nice part of having them hardwired is that the house is now like an office/other building: if one trips, they all trip, so the whole house is alerted. The newer ones have far fewer false alarms, too (pizza in the oven I am looking at you...).
- orra 2y ago
  Hardwiring is good, but if retrofitting, you don't need to do it. Some of the 10 year battery powered units can wirelessly link (and thankfully not over something inconsistent like WiFi or Bluetooth).
- hinkley 2y ago
  Battery powered units are literal lifesavers during a blackout, particularly in winter.
  - genewitch 2y ago
    My house has hard wired smoke detectors and they all have batteries and all get to chirping on their schedule every 3 years or so. I'd be willing to bet the NEC says "must be able to perform without mains power" for any hard wired setup.

shkkmo 2y ago

That was my first thought too, but only 1 of their 3 dogs was found dead

crystal_revenge 2y ago

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rob74 2y ago
Ok, at 95 that would maybe be understandable, but his wife was considerably younger (63). And what about the dog?
- matthewdgreen 2y ago
  And they were found in different rooms. Hackman apparently in a mudroom, and the wife in the bathroom.
kylecazar 2y ago
Mine too, but the dog was found dead in its kennel. I'm no detective but most decent dog owners wouldn't do that if it was a planned thing.
- harshreality 2y ago
  Depends, they (or she) could've medicated it to death. Assuming suicide was involved, if they had certain spiritual beliefs about life after death, they might have had an idea of the dog coming with them.
1ncunabula 2y ago
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echelon_musk 2y ago

> The local gas provider, the New Mexico Gas Co, was involved in the investigation alongside the Santa Fe county sheriff’s department, Associated Press reported, raising speculation that carbon monoxide poisoning lay behind the deaths https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/feb/27/gene-hackman-cause-of-death-investigation https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/feb/27/gene-hackman-ca...

canucker2016 2y ago

Not when responders arrived according to this article, https://abcnews.go.com/US/actor-gene-hackman-wife-found-dead-home-sheriff/story?id=119242578 https://abcnews.go.com/US/actor-gene-hackman-wife-found-dead... The Academy Award-winning actor was found on the floor in the mud room, according to the search warrant. It appeared he fell suddenly, and he and his wife "showed obvious signs of death," the document said. Arakawa was found lying on her side on the floor in a bathroom, with a space heater near her body, according to the search warrant. Her body showed signs of decomposition, the document said. There was mummification to her hands and feet, the document said. A German shepherd was found dead about 10 to 15 feet from Arakawa, the document said. But two other dogs were found alive. One healthy dog was near Arakawa and the other was located outside, according to the search warrant. The Santa Fe City Fire Department found no signs of a possible carbon monoxide leak or poisoning, the document said. If there was carbon monoxide at the scene, it could have vented out of the home through the open front door before responders arrived. New Mexico Gas Company also responded and "as of now, there are no signs or evidence indicating there were any problems associated to the pipes in and around the residence," the document said.

ninetyninenine 2y ago
Very unlikely for two people to die like that at the same time without some common factor. Add a dog and the probability becomes even crazier. The evidence doesn't show any foul play but the probabilities and unlikelihoods do.
- sparky_z 2y ago
  Keep in mind, he was 95 and was forced into retirement by health issues over 20 years ago. If your base rate is based on two healthy people in their prime, that's a little different. It could be as simple as he found her dead or dying, tried to get help and had a heart attack from the stress or simply just fell. Reports are they weren't found for two weeks, which sadly could explain the dog. Tragic situation all around, but I'm not ready to use a probability based argument to insist on foul play.

tiahura 2y ago

Like Weird Al’s folks and those poor people at the Bahama’s Sandals.

hinkley 2y ago

The article I read said no gas leak or CO was found. However I don't believe that one person being found dead near an open door is evidence of no gases. I would take it as the opposite. Something happens, one of them almost makes it out but either blacks out at the open door before getting fresh air or, like in the CO case, once exposed the damage is done. That said, the bigger curiosity is one dead dog and two small, live ones. If you have people poisoned by food, and one animal with food anxiety, that's a recipe for one dead dog and multiple dead people and other household animals wondering what the hell just happened. If you have people and animals poisoned by a gas... Unless it was lighter than air it should have affected the small dogs as well, unless they were napping somewhere outside of the immediate danger. (The GSD could also have died from eating the prescription pills on the ground and it's only a coincidental death rather than common cause)