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Have you seen doge.gov? It is not just about firing the do-nothing remote federal workers.

by _9za9 2y ago

reaperducer 2y ago
Have you seen doge.gov? It is not just about firing the do-nothing remote federal workers. Have you bothered to look up the actual hard statistics that show that federal workers work more and harder than those in private sector companies? https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/21/are-federal-workers-lazy-lets-look-data/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/21/are-feder... Warning: You will have to exit your echo chamber.
- _9za9 2y ago
  Tell me to exit my echo chamber as you post a liberal source for a liberal narrative, nice! Try finding factual statistics and report back, we will wait.
  - reaperducer 2y ago
    I ready both sides regularly, in order to keep an open mind. You should try it sometime. The article contains links to the original research. Are you lazy, or just afraid of facts? I provided a reference refuting your assertion that federal workers are lazy. You don't appear to have anything to back up your position, or you world have replied with it. Instead you tried to steer the discussion in another direction. Lame.
andrei_says_ 2y ago
Just using this framing for remote workers exposes a bias which makes the conversation pointless. DOGE Obliterating consumer protection agencies that cost next to nothing shows more about the intentions than any PR.
- notahacker 2y ago
  That and cut to orgs like the IRS that exist to reduce the size of the deficit
  - Jtsummers 2y ago
    This will have major impacts on the deficit. Reducing revenue does not help close the gap when they're not also significantly reducing spending. If we aren't going to raise taxes, then enforcement needs to be maintained. Tariffs do bring in revenue, but at a cost (with the selected tariffs) to industries which will reduce income for companies and individuals so net we're likely to see reduced total revenue, but a shift in where revenue comes from. The deficit will probably go up the next few years with the current scheme between reducing IRS enforcement, reducing economic activity, and insignificant spending cuts. This leaves only a few "natural" cuts that will be very unpopular, but needed to come close to balancing the budget: Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. DOD cuts will reduce military readiness at a time when we'll either need it (Taiwan) or be abandoning our military dominance. But even cutting DOD spending by 100% wouldn't clear the deficit itself so other things have to be cut. This year's DOD spending is $318 billion so far, and the deficit is $839 billion. Cutting DOD spending by 100% would still have left a $500 billion deficit. https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/federal-spending/ https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/feder...
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Have you seen doge.gov? It is not just about firing the do-nothing remote federal workers.

by _9za9 2y ago

Have you seen doge.gov? It is not just about firing the do-nothing remote federal workers.

Have you seen doge.gov? It is not just about firing the do-nothing remote federal workers. Have you bothered to look up the actual hard statistics that show that federal workers work more and harder than those in private sector companies? https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/21/are-federal-workers-lazy-lets-look-data/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/21/are-feder... Warning: You will have to exit your echo chamber.

_9za9 2y ago
Tell me to exit my echo chamber as you post a liberal source for a liberal narrative, nice! Try finding factual statistics and report back, we will wait.
- reaperducer 2y ago
  I ready both sides regularly, in order to keep an open mind. You should try it sometime. The article contains links to the original research. Are you lazy, or just afraid of facts? I provided a reference refuting your assertion that federal workers are lazy. You don't appear to have anything to back up your position, or you world have replied with it. Instead you tried to steer the discussion in another direction. Lame.

andrei_says_ 2y ago

Just using this framing for remote workers exposes a bias which makes the conversation pointless. DOGE Obliterating consumer protection agencies that cost next to nothing shows more about the intentions than any PR.

notahacker 2y ago
That and cut to orgs like the IRS that exist to reduce the size of the deficit
- Jtsummers 2y ago
  This will have major impacts on the deficit. Reducing revenue does not help close the gap when they're not also significantly reducing spending. If we aren't going to raise taxes, then enforcement needs to be maintained. Tariffs do bring in revenue, but at a cost (with the selected tariffs) to industries which will reduce income for companies and individuals so net we're likely to see reduced total revenue, but a shift in where revenue comes from. The deficit will probably go up the next few years with the current scheme between reducing IRS enforcement, reducing economic activity, and insignificant spending cuts. This leaves only a few "natural" cuts that will be very unpopular, but needed to come close to balancing the budget: Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. DOD cuts will reduce military readiness at a time when we'll either need it (Taiwan) or be abandoning our military dominance. But even cutting DOD spending by 100% wouldn't clear the deficit itself so other things have to be cut. This year's DOD spending is $318 billion so far, and the deficit is $839 billion. Cutting DOD spending by 100% would still have left a $500 billion deficit. https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/federal-spending/ https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/feder...

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