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Tate is a hardcore convert to Islam. Not sure if that's going to play with the MAGA base but what do I know

tmp202502 2y ago
Tate is not a hardcore convert to anything. Tate's Islam conversion is about two things: 1) putting up a flag to find somewhere comfortable without an extradition treaty where his views are normal 2) seeking narcissistic supply from an easily identified demographic: angry, wealthy young muslim men in repressive countries. He's stylised himself like that: like the wealthy son of an exiled Emirati. He's a malignant narcissist: broken, cold, and lonely inside in a way that only adoration can fix. As it goes, Tate shares with Musk and Trump a genuinely tragic origin story of adoring a bullying, abusive, cold, father. (With one likely additional common factor: neurodivergence. Autism in Tate's case, AuDHD in Musk's, ADHD in Trump's) The paradox of this world is that if Trump, Musk and Tate sat down, talked and cried together about the abuse and coldness of their early years -- their utterly broken childhood -- then masculine culture and the world might get somewhere.
- godsinhisheaven 2y ago
  Thats the thing about neurodivergence, it's a double edged sword I feel like. Like, all of the great men of history were extremely likely to be neurodivergent, so if you're a normal person with no mental illness, you kind of just know you won't be the next Thomas Edison or Genghis Khan. At the same time, you're a normal person, so you won't like, do something crazy like electrocute an elephant or kill millions of people.
- acdha 2y ago
  > With one likely additional common factor: neurodivergence. Autism in Tate's case, AuDHD in Musk's, ADHD in Trump's Have any of them have actually been diagnosed? If not, I would consider whether that’s a genuine factor or an attempt to use the neurodivergent community as a shield.
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  - bediger4000 2y ago
    I kind of doubt Trump suffers from ADHD. He's pretty clearly old, tired, and has that weird born-into-money thing were he believes he just can't fail, so every normal person around him goes along with it. I don't know what that's called.

tmp202502 2y ago

Tate is not a hardcore convert to anything. Tate's Islam conversion is about two things: 1) putting up a flag to find somewhere comfortable without an extradition treaty where his views are normal 2) seeking narcissistic supply from an easily identified demographic: angry, wealthy young muslim men in repressive countries. He's stylised himself like that: like the wealthy son of an exiled Emirati. He's a malignant narcissist: broken, cold, and lonely inside in a way that only adoration can fix. As it goes, Tate shares with Musk and Trump a genuinely tragic origin story of adoring a bullying, abusive, cold, father. (With one likely additional common factor: neurodivergence. Autism in Tate's case, AuDHD in Musk's, ADHD in Trump's) The paradox of this world is that if Trump, Musk and Tate sat down, talked and cried together about the abuse and coldness of their early years -- their utterly broken childhood -- then masculine culture and the world might get somewhere.

godsinhisheaven 2y ago
Thats the thing about neurodivergence, it's a double edged sword I feel like. Like, all of the great men of history were extremely likely to be neurodivergent, so if you're a normal person with no mental illness, you kind of just know you won't be the next Thomas Edison or Genghis Khan. At the same time, you're a normal person, so you won't like, do something crazy like electrocute an elephant or kill millions of people.
acdha 2y ago
> With one likely additional common factor: neurodivergence. Autism in Tate's case, AuDHD in Musk's, ADHD in Trump's Have any of them have actually been diagnosed? If not, I would consider whether that’s a genuine factor or an attempt to use the neurodivergent community as a shield.
- tmp202502 2y ago
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- bediger4000 2y ago
  I kind of doubt Trump suffers from ADHD. He's pretty clearly old, tired, and has that weird born-into-money thing were he believes he just can't fail, so every normal person around him goes along with it. I don't know what that's called.