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> I don't thinks statements like this are meant to be read literally in American English. I don't know, when I got hyperfocused on a side-project a few years a

> I don't thinks statements like this are meant to be read literally in American English. I don't know, when I got hyperfocused on a side-project a few years ago, I was dedicating almost all my awake time to it. 12+ hours a day, every day, including weekends, for months. Surprisingly, I didn't burn out. I was just so interested in it, I couldn't stop, and even started neglecting other things to work more on it. I never hit such a focus state since that time in 2017~2018.

KPGv2 2y ago
This happened to me once. It was like attaining enlightenment. My company worked with a F100 that had, as a core piece of their business, a piece of software they'd commissioned in the 80s that they still used in the 2010s to make billion dollar decisions. But no one knew how it made the calculations they relied on. This was before attorneys knew to include source code in procurement, the original devs at a third party code shop was long gone. We were already working on something for them, and on a whim, one of their VPs asked my company if we could take a look at it. So that's how the mathematician at the company (me) ended up waking up, sitting in front of a whiteboard, and losing all concept of time until my wife got home from work at night, not eating, not sleeping, staring at decompiled assembly and stepping through line by line for weeks. (I don't want to say months because I'm sure someone will come roast my ass for taking too long, but "months" is honestly more accurate; in fairness, I was learning every technique used on the fly) It was a prolonged, repeated flow state that I've only ever experienced during really competitive tennis as a high schooler. Losing all concept of time and space, hyper focused on one task that has completely spread to all parts of your consciousness.
- danielscrubs 2y ago
  ”not sleeping […] for weeks”. This is why Americans make the best marketers, you just can’t help yourself embellish with some fabrications to make a great, memorable story.
- ok_dad 2y ago
  Imagine if every human had the resource security to do this for a good portion of their lives. Star Trek was fiction but we could have that if a few of us humans weren’t so greedy!
  - gottorf 2y ago
    Virtually everyone living in a developed country has resource security to do this. Even in America, with its relatively poor levels of social assistance, you could live off of the dole as long as your expectations on quality of life are low. Turns out, in the real world, people like having nice things, hanging out with family and friends, travel occasionally, etc. instead of just entering flow state to solve problems! It has nothing to do with income inequality.
    - ok_dad 2y ago
      People have to be comfortable to be as creative as the OP comment, so while I agree in principle, I think it's going to be harder than you imagine to build amazing things when you're living below the poverty line. The anxiety and mental anguish alone could cripple a person, even someone that isn't in the worst situations.
      - dimitropoulos 2y ago
        hi! author here! it's a pipedream, I know, but it's a hope/goal of mine to, in the next video (the "why did you do this" video) to give some fuel/motivation to people that might be feeling like you describe. do you have any advice for me for what I can say in the upcoming video to someone that might not be as comfortable, as you say. I really do have a grasp for how hard what you're talking about is, and I've tried over my life (sometimes very hard, sometimes too hard) to help people I know to overcome it (sometimes successfully, sometimes not). When you're in survival mode every day, you might look at a project like this Doom one and go "yeah right! not in a million years could I do that with my current set of things weighing me down!". anyway, don't want to ramble, but if you (or anyone else reading) has any wisdom to share on how to talk about these things in a way that's effective or inspirational for people, I'd really love to learn.
hn_throwaway_99 2y ago
I think both of you are correct: 1. I've also been it a hyper-focused state where I was so intent on what I was working on I would spend basically all my time on that project without burning out. Like you, I haven't hit that focus state for a long time. 2. "18+ hour days", consecutively, is almost certainly an exaggeration, and this is where I agree with the parent commenter. For some reasons Americans (I am American) love talking about how much time they work and how little sleep they get. Realistically, very few people (except a small percentage of genetic outliers) can get by on sub-6 hours of sleep for long.

KPGv2 2y ago

This happened to me once. It was like attaining enlightenment. My company worked with a F100 that had, as a core piece of their business, a piece of software they'd commissioned in the 80s that they still used in the 2010s to make billion dollar decisions. But no one knew how it made the calculations they relied on. This was before attorneys knew to include source code in procurement, the original devs at a third party code shop was long gone. We were already working on something for them, and on a whim, one of their VPs asked my company if we could take a look at it. So that's how the mathematician at the company (me) ended up waking up, sitting in front of a whiteboard, and losing all concept of time until my wife got home from work at night, not eating, not sleeping, staring at decompiled assembly and stepping through line by line for weeks. (I don't want to say months because I'm sure someone will come roast my ass for taking too long, but "months" is honestly more accurate; in fairness, I was learning every technique used on the fly) It was a prolonged, repeated flow state that I've only ever experienced during really competitive tennis as a high schooler. Losing all concept of time and space, hyper focused on one task that has completely spread to all parts of your consciousness.

danielscrubs 2y ago
”not sleeping […] for weeks”. This is why Americans make the best marketers, you just can’t help yourself embellish with some fabrications to make a great, memorable story.
ok_dad 2y ago
Imagine if every human had the resource security to do this for a good portion of their lives. Star Trek was fiction but we could have that if a few of us humans weren’t so greedy!
- gottorf 2y ago
  Virtually everyone living in a developed country has resource security to do this. Even in America, with its relatively poor levels of social assistance, you could live off of the dole as long as your expectations on quality of life are low. Turns out, in the real world, people like having nice things, hanging out with family and friends, travel occasionally, etc. instead of just entering flow state to solve problems! It has nothing to do with income inequality.
  - ok_dad 2y ago
    People have to be comfortable to be as creative as the OP comment, so while I agree in principle, I think it's going to be harder than you imagine to build amazing things when you're living below the poverty line. The anxiety and mental anguish alone could cripple a person, even someone that isn't in the worst situations.
    - dimitropoulos 2y ago
      hi! author here! it's a pipedream, I know, but it's a hope/goal of mine to, in the next video (the "why did you do this" video) to give some fuel/motivation to people that might be feeling like you describe. do you have any advice for me for what I can say in the upcoming video to someone that might not be as comfortable, as you say. I really do have a grasp for how hard what you're talking about is, and I've tried over my life (sometimes very hard, sometimes too hard) to help people I know to overcome it (sometimes successfully, sometimes not). When you're in survival mode every day, you might look at a project like this Doom one and go "yeah right! not in a million years could I do that with my current set of things weighing me down!". anyway, don't want to ramble, but if you (or anyone else reading) has any wisdom to share on how to talk about these things in a way that's effective or inspirational for people, I'd really love to learn.

hn_throwaway_99 2y ago

I think both of you are correct: 1. I've also been it a hyper-focused state where I was so intent on what I was working on I would spend basically all my time on that project without burning out. Like you, I haven't hit that focus state for a long time. 2. "18+ hour days", consecutively, is almost certainly an exaggeration, and this is where I agree with the parent commenter. For some reasons Americans (I am American) love talking about how much time they work and how little sleep they get. Realistically, very few people (except a small percentage of genetic outliers) can get by on sub-6 hours of sleep for long.