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Yes, it's an LG LM171W02-TTA1 which is a 6-bit TN panel; most (all?) TN panels of that era were 6-bit at best, so it could only display ~256k colors

rendaw 2y ago
It sounds like you're disagreeing, but GP is right per https://support.apple.com/en-us/112313 https://support.apple.com/en-us/112313 > 15-inch (viewable) TFT active-matrix LCD, 1024 by 768 pixels, millions of colors I'm not super familiar with macs, but AFAICT that's the product being described here.
- jasongill 2y ago
  It's most definitely a LM171W02 panel in the iMac G4 which is definitely a 6-bit panel, you can see the specs here: https://www.panelook.com/modelsearch.php?keyword=LM171W02&search_id=1936823 https://www.panelook.com/modelsearch.php?keyword=LM171W02&se... all of the LM171W02 panel family are 6-bit (notice the colors column lists 262k) Edit: I see you linked to the entire G4 lineup specs. The 15" is a LM151X2 and also has only 262k colors: https://www.panelook.com/modelsearch.php?keyword=LM151X2&search_id=1936844 https://www.panelook.com/modelsearch.php?keyword=LM151X2&sea... but the 20" is a LM201U04 with an IPS panel that could display millions of colors with 8 bits per channel https://www.panelook.com/modelsearch.php?keyword=LM201U04&search_id=1936870 https://www.panelook.com/modelsearch.php?keyword=LM201U04&se... so we can assume that Apple is simply using dithering to count as "millions of colors" on the lower models
  - rendaw 2y ago
    Okay fair enough, but then... did Apple just straight up lie about the specs?
    - jasongill 2y ago
      I wouldn't say they lied so much as they obfuscated the truth; the machine supported millions of colors, and with dithering techniques the monitor could look like it was displaying quite a lot of colors, but only the 20" display could display millions of colors without dithering (which was just like basically every other TN-based machine and display of the time)
- trinix912 2y ago
  The "millions of colors" was a part of a lawsuit by some photographers who found out it wasn't actually millions. https://appleinsider.com/articles/08/03/26/apple_settles_millions_of_colors_class_action_lawsuit https://appleinsider.com/articles/08/03/26/apple_settles_mil...
  - rendaw 2y ago
    Ah! Okay, that explains the dissonance.
js2 2y ago
Thank you for the clarification.

rendaw 2y ago

It sounds like you're disagreeing, but GP is right per https://support.apple.com/en-us/112313 https://support.apple.com/en-us/112313 > 15-inch (viewable) TFT active-matrix LCD, 1024 by 768 pixels, millions of colors I'm not super familiar with macs, but AFAICT that's the product being described here.

jasongill 2y ago
It's most definitely a LM171W02 panel in the iMac G4 which is definitely a 6-bit panel, you can see the specs here: https://www.panelook.com/modelsearch.php?keyword=LM171W02&search_id=1936823 https://www.panelook.com/modelsearch.php?keyword=LM171W02&se... all of the LM171W02 panel family are 6-bit (notice the colors column lists 262k) Edit: I see you linked to the entire G4 lineup specs. The 15" is a LM151X2 and also has only 262k colors: https://www.panelook.com/modelsearch.php?keyword=LM151X2&search_id=1936844 https://www.panelook.com/modelsearch.php?keyword=LM151X2&sea... but the 20" is a LM201U04 with an IPS panel that could display millions of colors with 8 bits per channel https://www.panelook.com/modelsearch.php?keyword=LM201U04&search_id=1936870 https://www.panelook.com/modelsearch.php?keyword=LM201U04&se... so we can assume that Apple is simply using dithering to count as "millions of colors" on the lower models
- rendaw 2y ago
  Okay fair enough, but then... did Apple just straight up lie about the specs?
  - jasongill 2y ago
    I wouldn't say they lied so much as they obfuscated the truth; the machine supported millions of colors, and with dithering techniques the monitor could look like it was displaying quite a lot of colors, but only the 20" display could display millions of colors without dithering (which was just like basically every other TN-based machine and display of the time)
trinix912 2y ago
The "millions of colors" was a part of a lawsuit by some photographers who found out it wasn't actually millions. https://appleinsider.com/articles/08/03/26/apple_settles_millions_of_colors_class_action_lawsuit https://appleinsider.com/articles/08/03/26/apple_settles_mil...
- rendaw 2y ago
  Ah! Okay, that explains the dissonance.

js2 2y ago

Thank you for the clarification.