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Seriously ???? Did you buy JD Vance on "free speech" in EU ? Actually, you should get better information (and a link to the EU Commission website is nothing if

Seriously ???? Did you buy JD Vance on "free speech" in EU ? Actually, you should get better information (and a link to the EU Commission website is nothing if you dont read or understand it... it's only the old FUD) Right now, the POTUS is so much reducing freedom in US that it's enough for him to say that it doesn't like something (like DEI) for a lot of companies to trash DEI in the hope to please him. And it's enough for the WaPo to change what will be the content of its "opinion" pages... And EU is the one reducing freedom ?????? You should really wake up guys

Clubber 2y ago
One example is Germany will now arrest you for insulting someone in public or online, including insulting politicians. The UK has had some questionable laws passed as well. Pockets of Europe has much weaker free speech protections than the US does, that much is for certain. 60 Minutes did a recent segment on German speech laws. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bMzFDpfDwc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bMzFDpfDwc
alephnerd 2y ago
> Did you buy JD Vance on "free speech" in EU I don't buy JD Vance's argument, but I am fine sacrificing the EU if it means Dem-turned-GOP donors (especially on the Tech side) return to our party.
sickofparadox 2y ago
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- MadcapJake 2y ago
  From the article you posted: > Maja R was sentenced to a weekend in jail after her comments because she had a previous conviction for theft and had not attending the court hearing for the case. I'm not supportive of defamation laws but clearly you (and this journalist) are sensationalizing what happened.
  - sickofparadox 2y ago
    If this happened in America I don't think it would be an issue if a mob killed the judge and jury. Minimizing and justifying this at all should be a permanently disqualifying act. If you think that it's ok at any level, I don't want to share a country with you.
    - thomassmith65 2y ago
      That comment could have been simply "Looks like I was misinformed. Thank you for the correction"
      - sickofparadox 2y ago
        Everything I said was 100% correct, you (and gp) are trying to downplay Germany imprisoning a woman for speaking ill of a gang rapist who was given no jail time.
        thomassmith65 2y ago
        After reading a closer source (machine-translated), I apologize, especially since the issue is media literacy. Your comment was near enough to the facts that I was wrong to be a scold. * https://archive.ph/vml0k https://archive.ph/vml0k German newspaper * https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/57108 https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/57108 random English discussion of source
        hitekker 2y ago
        Thanks for backing this up with more evidence. It's a graceful move to acknowledge a mistake. I also thought the GP was just throwing fire. But after reading more into the matter, I'm a little too disgusted to dig anymore.
    - selimthegrim 2y ago
      This did happen, in Terrebonne Parish, Louisiana when someone badmouthed the sheriff. No one killed anyone though.
Dig1t 2y ago
> Did you buy JD Vance on "free speech" in EU ? You can find TONS of examples of people in Europe being jailed or having cops come to their house for something they said on social media. In some cases for things as simple as criticizing a politician. Here’s a high profile one, but I can find you plenty more examples. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson >On 25 May 2018, Robinson was arrested for a breach of the peace while live streaming outside Leeds Crown Court[170][174] “Breach of peace” means he was saying something that they didn’t want him to say. This is a real curtailing of free speech. >companies to trash DEI DEI is often racist and many of its implementations in modern companies violate the civil rights act. Companies are correct to be ditching it because it poses a big risk for discrimination lawsuits. I actually spoke with lawyers about this very recently and reverse discrimination lawsuits are a booming business right now because there are so many clear cut examples of violations of the civil rights act.

Clubber 2y ago

One example is Germany will now arrest you for insulting someone in public or online, including insulting politicians. The UK has had some questionable laws passed as well. Pockets of Europe has much weaker free speech protections than the US does, that much is for certain. 60 Minutes did a recent segment on German speech laws. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bMzFDpfDwc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bMzFDpfDwc

alephnerd 2y ago

> Did you buy JD Vance on "free speech" in EU I don't buy JD Vance's argument, but I am fine sacrificing the EU if it means Dem-turned-GOP donors (especially on the Tech side) return to our party.

sickofparadox 2y ago

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MadcapJake 2y ago
From the article you posted: > Maja R was sentenced to a weekend in jail after her comments because she had a previous conviction for theft and had not attending the court hearing for the case. I'm not supportive of defamation laws but clearly you (and this journalist) are sensationalizing what happened.
- sickofparadox 2y ago
  If this happened in America I don't think it would be an issue if a mob killed the judge and jury. Minimizing and justifying this at all should be a permanently disqualifying act. If you think that it's ok at any level, I don't want to share a country with you.
  - thomassmith65 2y ago
    That comment could have been simply "Looks like I was misinformed. Thank you for the correction"
    - sickofparadox 2y ago
      Everything I said was 100% correct, you (and gp) are trying to downplay Germany imprisoning a woman for speaking ill of a gang rapist who was given no jail time.
      - thomassmith65 2y ago
        After reading a closer source (machine-translated), I apologize, especially since the issue is media literacy. Your comment was near enough to the facts that I was wrong to be a scold. * https://archive.ph/vml0k https://archive.ph/vml0k German newspaper * https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/57108 https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/57108 random English discussion of source
        hitekker 2y ago
        Thanks for backing this up with more evidence. It's a graceful move to acknowledge a mistake. I also thought the GP was just throwing fire. But after reading more into the matter, I'm a little too disgusted to dig anymore.
  - selimthegrim 2y ago
    This did happen, in Terrebonne Parish, Louisiana when someone badmouthed the sheriff. No one killed anyone though.

Dig1t 2y ago

> Did you buy JD Vance on "free speech" in EU ? You can find TONS of examples of people in Europe being jailed or having cops come to their house for something they said on social media. In some cases for things as simple as criticizing a politician. Here’s a high profile one, but I can find you plenty more examples. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson >On 25 May 2018, Robinson was arrested for a breach of the peace while live streaming outside Leeds Crown Court[170][174] “Breach of peace” means he was saying something that they didn’t want him to say. This is a real curtailing of free speech. >companies to trash DEI DEI is often racist and many of its implementations in modern companies violate the civil rights act. Companies are correct to be ditching it because it poses a big risk for discrimination lawsuits. I actually spoke with lawyers about this very recently and reverse discrimination lawsuits are a booming business right now because there are so many clear cut examples of violations of the civil rights act.